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    Arrow The left loses its cool

    The left loses its cool
    ‘When you’re violent and cursing and screaming and blocking me from walking into a movie, there’s something wrong,’ said one top GOP official.
    Politico:
    By MARC CAPUTO and DANIEL LIPPMAN 06/25/2018 05:04 AM EDT Updated 06/26/2018 11:31 AM EDT

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...s-trump-667934

    Two senior Trump administration officials were heckled at restaurants. A third was denied service. Florida GOP Attorney General Pam Bondi required a police escort away from a movie about Mister Rogers after activists yelled at her in Tampa — where two other Republican lawmakers say they were also politically harassed last week, one of them with her kids in tow.

    In the Donald Trump era, the left is as aggressively confrontational as at any time in recent memory.

    What it means for 2018 — whether it portends a blue wave of populist revolt for Democrats or a red wall of silent majority resistance from Republicans — largely depends on one’s political persuasion. But there’s a bipartisan sense that this election season marks another inflection point in the collapse of civil political discourse.

    Few disagree that Democrats are marching, protesting and confronting Republican officials with more intensity during the midterm elections than at any time in decades. The progressive fervor recalls conservative opposition to the previous president in his first midterm, when Democratic members of Congress were left running from disruptive town halls and ended up being crushed at the polls in November.

    "If you see anybody from that Cabinet — in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station — you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere,” implored California Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters at a Saturday rally, prompting an immediate conservative backlash on social media.

    The intense, in-your-face approach toward public officials is only expected to intensify, fueled by social media and what appears to be an increasingly polarized and angry electorate.

    “It is part of a trend,” said Bondi, a close Trump ally who came face-to-face with protesters Friday at the Tampa Theatre before and after a screening of the Mister Rogers documentary “Won't You Be My Neighbor?”

    “When you’re violent and cursing and screaming and blocking me from walking into a movie, there’s something wrong,” she said. “The next people are going to come with guns. That’s what’s going to happen.”

    According to Bondi, she and a friend were confronted at least four times — while buying tickets, entering the theater, standing in line at the concession stand and then on their way out — and that activists were aggressive in each instance, with one yelling so loudly at her that he spit in her hair, either unintentionally or because he meant to expectorate on her. She said they also taunted her friend as “blue eyes” and asked him in a threatening manner if he was going to protect her, as though they wanted to fight.

    The activists tell a different story.

    “Pam Bondi’s version of events is inaccurate and don’t reflect what happened,” said Tim Heberlein, Tampa Bay regional director for the progressive group Organize Florida. He said he and a handful of fellow activists coincidentally ran into Bondi at the movie.

    Heberlein said the videos the group released don’t comport with Bondi’s version of events. Bondi said the reason for that is that the activists released only the videos showing what happened as they were leaving the movie, when Tampa Police were there and everyone was on their best behavior.

    Heberlein said the activists tried to talk to Bondi about her policies and political stances: support for Trump, and her longstanding opposition to Obamacare in the courts.

    “This wasn’t a tactic to mobilize voters. This was a couple folks just going to see a movie. And the attorney general, our elected representative, is there,” Heberlein said. “There’s a lot more of an energized base around progressive voting, just people impacted by this administration’s policies, including Pam Bondi. People are aware and very hyper-cognizant about how it affects the state and how it affects them in their personal lives.”

    In talking to POLITICO, Heberlein said he needed to be cautious about his remarks because Bondi is the “top law enforcement officer” in the state and she had called the actions of his group an assault. Earlier, to The Tampa Bay Times, he had more swagger: “If you refuse to meet with us, we're coming to where you're at. We're coming to where you're watching a movie or eating dinner”
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    Seems to me heberlein could be charged with harrassment and stalking, arrested, tased and waterboarded

    repeatedly


    Maxine waters, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Seems to me heberlein could be charged with harrassment and stalking, arrested, tased and waterboarded

    repeatedly


    Maxine waters, too
    Oh Lordy, Waters is so disgusting, she is beyond contempt

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Oh Lordy, Waters is so disgusting, she is beyond contempt
    and idiots here have called for her to run in 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Two senior Trump administration officials were heckled at restaurants.

    Any broken bones, or did only the names harm them?

    A third was denied service. Florida GOP Attorney General Pam Bondi required a police escort away from a movie about Mister Rogers after activists yelled at her in Tampa — where two other Republican lawmakers say they were also politically harassed last week, one of them with her kids in tow.
    All treated for 3rd degree ego bruises and released back into the wild.

    Don't you have any new outrage?

    In the Donald Trump era, the left is as aggressively confrontational as at any time in recent memory.
    That's fair.

    What it means for 2018...But there’s a bipartisan sense that this election season marks another inflection point in the collapse of civil political discourse.
    Republicans haven't tried to engage in civil discourse since Reagan.

    Few disagree that Democrats are marching, protesting and confronting Republican officials with more intensity during the midterm elections than at any time in decades.
    True.

    The intense, in-your-face approach toward public officials is only expected to intensify, fueled by social media and what appears to be an increasingly polarized and angry electorate.
    That happens when the majority of Americans don't control a majority of power.

    “It is part of a trend,” said Bondi, a close Trump ally who came face-to-face with protesters Friday at the Tampa Theatre before and after a screening of the Mister Rogers documentary “Won't You Be My Neighbor?”“When you’re violent and cursing and screaming and blocking me from walking into a movie, there’s something wrong,” she said. “The next people are going to come with guns. That’s what’s going to happen.”
    No, that's Bondi's fantasy. What's going to happen will happen at the polls. This is just an angry, embarrassed majority expressing outrage in a way that Bondi appears to misrepresent, not particularly shocking given who she is and what she supports.

    I omit Bondi's fantasy about what transpired, where she wasn't in any way harmed, leading to police doing literally nothing to those who confronted her. And if you think the police wouldn't have acted on any semblance of disorder you haven't been paying attention to the police and how they respond to the concerns of power.

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    Any broken bones, or did only the names harm them?


    I guess you wouldn't mind being unable to sit down at a restaurant without being screamed at continually until you left???

    Perhaps peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for the rest of your days is cool with you????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post

    That happens when the majority of Americans don't control a majority of power.


    is this the consequence (finally!) of your mythical "lack of mandate"?


    angry leftists chanting like retards?

    angry leftists impotently shaking their fists and giving voice to infantile outbursts?

    Quote Originally Posted by townclown
    What's going to happen will happen at the polls.
    if you don't mind, i believe i'll ignore your predictions about the polls, seeing as you were completely wrong last time

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post

    I guess you wouldn't mind being unable to sit down at a restaurant without being screamed at continually until you left???

    if i had been a patron in one of those restaurants, i believe i would have been tempted to persuade those retarded leftists that they would be safer elsewhere

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    Typical trump supporter

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    making america great again, one bruised leftist at a time!

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    That happens when the majority of Americans don't control a majority of power.


    Go complain to Jefferson and Madison.

    All areas of the nation must share power. All power cannot be held by a razor thin geographical area on the coasts.

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    Power that is held exclusively in towns with one million plus population is tyranny.

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    The vast majority of the population was against gay marriage but I suppose majority vote doesn't matter then?

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    I wrote, That happens when the majority of Americans don't control a majority of power.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Go complain to Jefferson and Madison.
    That would be about as productive as your telling me to do it. And while I'm for abolishing the EC, in that instance I was simply noting where the increased activity and hostility of many Americans is coming from.

    All areas of the nation must share power.
    No argument there. Do you think that's happening at present?

    All power cannot be held by a razor thin geographical area on the coasts.
    As opposed to a razor thin imaginary line where land matters more than people?

    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Power that is held exclusively in towns with one million plus population is tyranny.
    The problem with that is that the Senate and House will still exist. But the president should represent the people, not a de facto gerrymandering.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    The vast majority of the population was against gay marriage but I suppose majority vote doesn't matter then?
    The majority vote does matter. You just have to have enough of it to make a Constitutional Amendment. But then, there's a vast difference between suggesting the people should directly elect a president in our republic and suggesting that we put a thumb on the scale of right to favor the majority, which is what your complaint amounts to.
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    The left loses its cool

    The fact that a sitting President is supposed to make decisions that take into account the interests of all Americans, not just those who voted for him, is a political fact that Trump has chosen to ignore!

    These public outbursts directed at Trump appointees are symptomatic of a growing unrest with a President whose actions are designed to satisfy 1/3 of the electorate - while effectively disenfranchising the rest!

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