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    The Democrats and the Abolition of Captilism

    Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez said Tuesday that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez "represents the future of our party."

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and the following speaks about that organization:

    "Like most socialist organizations, DSA believes in the abolition of capitalism in favor of an economy run either by “the workers” or the state — though the exact specifics of “abolishing capitalism” are fiercely debated by socialists."

    According to the chief-spokesman of the Democrat party the future of their party is an abolition of captialism.

    Next, the Dems will be pushing Communism as a better choice!

    Any of you progressives want to support the Democrat party, a party whose future is the abolition of captialism?

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    Their socialism is something they have tried to deny in order to win elections. Now its all just out there in the open. The scary thing is that she actually won.

    Democrats are no longer Americans. That Party is controlled by the fringe freak Left. The party of Kennedy and Truman is long dead.

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    What I Really Think of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    Jul 3, 2018
    Rush Limbaugh
    >> https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2...ocasio-cortez/

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Their socialism is something they have tried to deny in order to win elections. Now its all just out there in the open. The scary thing is that she actually won.

    Democrats are no longer Americans. That Party is controlled by the fringe freak Left. The party of Kennedy and Truman is long dead.
    "fringe freak Left" is right.

    I'm curious to know if there is anyone on this forum who actually wants to abolish captialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    "fringe freak Left" is right.

    I'm curious to know if there is anyone on this forum who actually wants to abolish captialism.
    I'm sure there are, people who never learned from history.

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    I feel a Red Scare coming on. Ironically, by the very people who are selling this country to the Russians.
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    I feel a Red Scare coming on. Ironically, by the very people who are selling this country to the Russians.
    LOL The Red Scare is the whole Russian collusion hoax being perpetrated by the Dems. Keep stoking the fires, though, it may be good for another year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    I'm sure there are, people who never learned from history.
    That's what the whole "dumbing down of America" in our public schools has been about. Most people don't even know what socialism is.

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    How does one abolish capitalism? That does even make any sense. I live in Silicon Valley which is a bastion of capitalism. All the innovations created here are driven by capitalism. It seems most hardcore socialists have no understanding of economic systems. They don't realize that smart phones, laptops, large screen TV, automobile, microwave oven, refrigerator, dish washing machine, vacuum cleaner, airplanes, etc. were created due to capitalism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    LOL The Red Scare is the whole Russian collusion hoax being perpetrated by the Dems. Keep stoking the fires, though, it may be good for another year or so.
    Ah, yes. And now Donny John will meet privately with Vladdy and then tweet that there is no reason to fear Russia just like the North Korea threat is over.
    When will the spineless Republicans realize Donny is a just a snake oil salesman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean View Post
    How does one abolish capitalism? That does even mnake any sense. I live in Silicon Valley which is a bastion of capitalism. All the innovations created here are driven by capitalism. It seems most hardcore socialists have no understanding of economic systems. They don't realize that smart phones, laptops, large screen TV, automobile, microwave oven, refrigerator, dish washing machine, vacuum cleaner, airplanes, etc. We're created due to capitalism?
    But is is so much easier to make the claim. Like all of Trumpy's claims without any basis in fact.
    You are correct capitalism is here to stay. It makes the world go 'round. It is not perfect. In its heart is is not Christian. It needs to be tempered with a dash of humanity and concern for The Other.
    Unfortunately it appears that this country's elites (read really really really Rich---ala Trump and ALL big political donors) benefit from recent Supreme Court cases, Citizens United, and Janus in particular, along with the concept of corporations being people, while the common man gets screwed. But the Super Elite, you know Donny of the White House, has certainly no compunction to screw those less "elite". Try being one of his sub contractors when he goes bankrupt or playing a round of golf at one of his courses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    You are correct capitalism is here to stay. It makes the world go 'round.
    Then you must realize that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the other like minded Dems have lost touch with reality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    I feel a Red Scare coming on. Ironically, by the very people who are selling this country to the Russians.
    The few spies Hitler had emplaced in America, claimed to be loyal Americans. That's how it always works.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    "fringe freak Left" is right.
    Whatever you do....don't inform Stripe!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post

    Any of you progressives want to support the Democrat party
    Yes.

    a party whose future is the abolition of captialism?
    From your own link:

    But the DSA is not a formal political party. Rather, it claims to be “the largest socialist organization” in America and tries to work within the Democratic Party to weaken capitalism, not end it. . . .

    Some of the economic policies favored by left-wing Democrats are also supported by DSA, and that can make the two occasionally difficult to disentangle.

    [But] many DSA members would go further than any of these New Deal Democrats. One useful distinction is that while progressive Democrats and DSA both believe in welfare state programs as a way to improve capitalism, DSA sees them as just one step toward completely severing the link between human needs and market scarcity.

    While both DSA and some left-wing Democrats agree that the government should provide universal health insurance, DSA ultimately wants to nationalize hospitals, providers, and the rest of the health care system as well. While both will work toward higher taxes on Wall Street, DSA ultimately wants to nationalize the entire financial sector. While left-wing Democrats believe in criminal justice reform, some DSA members are calling for the outright abolition of the police and prison systems. While both DSA and left-wing Democrats support reforms to get money out of politics, some in DSA see capitalism as fundamentally incompatible with genuinely free and fair elections. In practice, however, the two wind up ultimately taking the same positions.

    Socialists often get a bad rap in the press. Some US citizens who lived through the Cold War era succumbed to fears that socialism was “the close cousin of Soviet communism” and that a single-payer health care system was “a first step to the gulags,” according to the Guardian’s Chris McGreal. Some in the media (mostly Fox News) used socialism as an epithet against President Barack Obama, thereby giving voters a reason to fear him.


    You trying to paint all Democrats as the far left is like trying to paint all Republicans as Christian Dominionists.

    But fear-monger away, it's what you feed the base.
    So keep your candles burning

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