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    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    Pointing out that Donald Trump is truly a liberal to his fellow liberals is one of the most difficult pills for them to swallow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Well, not really, because he isn't. It's only far right conservatives that fawn over the guy as evidenced on here alone. People get labelled as "liberals" and "leftists" if they don't exhibit the same fawning adulation...
    Before the world turned totally insane, a politician whose actions supported homosexuality and abortion were considered liberal/Libertarian.

    You're not gonna win on that one Connie and besides,
    The truth speaks for itself. Those who aren't interested in it aren't my concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Before the world turned totally insane, a politician whose actions supported homosexuality and abortion were considered liberal/Libertarian.
    In that case pretty much any politician that doesn't tow your bonkers view is a "liberal", Republican or otherwise. Trump is about as liberal as a conversion therapy centre.

    The truth speaks for itself. Those who aren't interested in it aren't my concern.
    It sure does. It's the far right that venerate the guy, not moderates or liberals. That much is obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    There is no contradiction. I never said christian women have never had an abortion.
    My apologies for misunderstanding, I thought when you said "The fruit gives them away.....no?" that you were agreeing with the posters who were claiming that Christians couldn't get abortions.

    It's when if it doesn't break their heart they did and seek justification for their actions is what I am saying.
    I can agree with you that many Christian denominations would expect repentance (even as necessary for their salvation), while not denying that the woman was a Christian before during and after.

    Could you consider that the abortion rate would be lower if shame wasn't the catalyst for so many Christian women?
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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    ......Could you consider that the abortion rate would be lower if shame wasn't the catalyst for so many Christian women?
    It could also be lower if disgusting ignorant people stopped voting for Democrats and keeping it legal


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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    My apologies for misunderstanding, I thought when you said "The fruit gives them away.....no?" that you were agreeing with the posters who were claiming that Christians couldn't get abortions.

    There's more to it than what they said. I certainly agree that Christin women who get an abortion should be doubted. It's what happens after. The abortion itself was a fruit, but what happens after is just as much a fruit. Like I posted earlier, as brother adrian rogers has said, "if you can willfully and knowingly sin against the will of God with no conviction, no compunction, and no remorse, you need to get saved. A lot of people say, "Well, I walked down an aisle somewhere, and I got saved. I know I'm just an old backslider now, but I'm still saved and going to heaven."

    No, you are not. If you are living that way— high, wide, and handsome—and it does not break your heart, then you do not know the God of the Bible."
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    Before the world turned totally insane, a politician whose actions supported homosexuality and abortion were considered liberal/Libertarian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    In that case pretty much any politician that doesn't tow your bonkers view is a "liberal", Republican or otherwise. Trump is about as liberal as a conversion therapy centre.

    It's unfortunate in this day and age that once conservative politicians (which Donald Trump never was) change their ideology in order to help get them elected.

    Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarriorThe truth speaks for itself. Those who aren't interested in it aren't my concern.


    It sure does. It's the far right that venerate the guy, not moderates or liberals. That much is obvious.

    Democrats and Libertarians crossed Party lines to help get Trump elected (3/4 of TOL identify as Libertarian, you shouldn't have trouble finding one to verify what I've said is true).

    If those who call themselves "far right" embrace a President who appoints pro LGBTQ/abortion people in his administration and signs legislation that promotes both, that really doesn't make those people "far right" does it Arthur? (unless you've redefined what "far right" really is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    There's more to it than what they said. I certainly agree that Christin women who get an abortion should be doubted. It's what happens after. The abortion itself was a fruit, but what happens after is just as much a fruit. Like I posted earlier, as brother adrian rogers has said, "if you can willfully and knowingly sin against the will of God with no conviction, no compunction, and no remorse, you need to get saved. A lot of people say, "Well, I walked down an aisle somewhere, and I got saved. I know I'm just an old backslider now, but I'm still saved and going to heaven."

    No, you are not. If you are living that way— high, wide, and handsome—and it does not break your heart, then you do not know the God of the Bible."

    Aren't you talking about two things?

    -Whether or not a woman can be a Christian while in the act of getting an abortion

    -Whether or not a Christian woman who gets an abortion - without repentance - can still attain salvation?

    My own upbringing taught that unrepented mortal sin would send me to hell. Other Christians say once you've accepted Christ your salvation is assured (OSAS), and then there are a lot of variations and qualifications in between those two.

    But calling into question whether or not a woman was a 'real' Christian? That's what I see as too convenient, too easy to absolve from all culpability those who consider themselves 'real' Christians, allowing them to separate themselves from the 'wasn't a real' Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    It's unfortunate in this day and age that once conservative politicians (which Donald Trump never was) change their ideology in order to help get them elected.
    Dude, no politician would enact laws that would re-criminalize homosexuality so your pet obsession is irrelevant. EVERY politician would fall under the category of "liberal" by your "standard" but in the real world such definitions aren't so narrowly and arbitrarily categorised. Trump is not a "liberal" in any meaningful descriptor.

    Democrats and Libertarians crossed Party lines to help get Trump elected (3/4 of TOL identify as Libertarian, you shouldn't have trouble finding one to verify what I've said is true).
    You think 75% of TOL identify as libertarian? There's no such number that would identify as "liberal" so this is yet more aCW "I'm the only true conservative on this forum" boasting which means a number multiplied by nought.

    If those who call themselves "far right" embrace a President who appoints pro LGBTQ/abortion people in his administration and signs legislation that promotes both, that really doesn't make those people "far right" does it Arthur? (unless you've redefined what "far right" really is).
    As above doofus.
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    If you vote for abortion politicians you own abortion. All the other blabbing is just so much horse crap. When your time comes, you will know that the blood of the innocents drips from your leftwing freak hands, all of you, and I for one will be glad when you all burn in hell for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    If you vote for abortion politicians you own abortion. All the other blabbing is just so much horse crap. When your time comes, you will know that the blood of the innocents drips from your leftwing freak hands, all of you, and I for one will be glad when you all burn in hell for it

    Ah... the 'fruits of the spirit' in full blossom...
    So keep your candles burning

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    If you vote for abortion politicians you own abortion. All the other blabbing is just so much horse crap. When your time comes, you will know that the blood of the innocents drips from your leftwing freak hands, all of you, and I for one will be glad when you all burn in hell for it
    So when Trump funds Planned Parenthood to the tune of million of $$$$, it's safe to say the blood is on your hands...
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Ah... the 'fruits of the spirit' in full blossom...
    Such a beauty to behold ...
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    If you vote for abortion politicians you own abortion. All the other blabbing is just so much horse crap. When your time comes, you will know that the blood of the innocents drips from your leftwing freak hands, all of you, and I for one will be glad when you all burn in hell for it
    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Ah... the 'fruits of the spirit' in full blossom...
    Yep, its called TRUTH, something that you know nothing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Such a beauty to behold ...
    If you say so. You own it



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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    If you say so. You own it


    So do you...deal with it.
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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