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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post

    If murder should be allowed to be decided by the respective States....

    It shouldn't, which was my point

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    If murder should be allowed to be decided by the respective States, why shouldn't the above mentioned sins?
    Are you mot aware that not all states treat murder in the same way?

    When a trail is underway it is the law which is on the books for a particular state which decide the issue, not laws passed by the federal government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    "Abortion Anyone?"

    Nope. Not ever. Children matter ... before birth and AFTER. They do not belong in a waste bin (via AOD) OR in cages (via Trump).
    And yet you love your baby-killers Obama and Hillary, and hate the greatest pro-life president ever, Trump. You are a fraud and a hypocrite. Your vote for the Democrats puts the blood of those babies on your hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    And yet you love your baby-killers Obama and Hillary, and hate the greatest pro-life president ever, Trump. You are a fraud and a hypocrite. Your vote for the Democrats puts the blood of those babies on your hands.
    No she's not and no it doesn't.

    And by the way, Trump is the worst. president. ever.
    So keep your candles burning

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    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    If murder should be allowed to be decided by the respective States....

    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    It shouldn't, which was my point
    Share that with your Trump ally Gerald Shugart, as he doesn't seem to be catching on quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    If murder should be allowed to be decided by the respective States....



    Share that with your Trump ally Gerald Shugart, as he doesn't seem to be catching on quickly.
    Right on Lincoln!
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Right on Lincoln!
    Perhaps you could pull up a quote (just one) from the Founding Fathers showing that they believed that sinful behavior was a States Rights issue?

    Speaking of Gerald: He stated this earlier:

    The question of whether or not to make abortion legal should have been decided in each individual state and not by a handful of people who were not elected to anything.

    A handful of men (many of them weren't elected officials) decided the issue back in the late 1700's. They wrote in the Declaration of Independence that the right to life cannot be taken away without due process, something that they stated again in the 5th and 14th Amendments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    I suspect they are "cultural christians", raised in the environment but with no connection to God
    Well said!
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Well said!
    Cultural Christians are still Christians, and they still overwhelmingly represent the majority of abortions obtained. Christians need to come to grips with that, and quit absolving themselves from blame for perpetuating the very thing they work against.
    So keep your candles burning

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Perhaps you could pull up a quote (just one) from the Founding Fathers showing that they believed that sinful behavior was a States Rights issue?

    You can't even ask a legit question.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean
    Hey Doc,

    I have another question for you. In several posts you've said that America today is no longer what the founding fathers had intended. So exactly what kind of country did they intend for America to be?
    Well, where do I start.

    They intended for us to have liberty, to be a free people. The Federal Government was to be small. The states were to be thier own countries. Only centralized in the sense the Federal government can do its own just functions, which is protect the people and provide infrastruture. The Federal Government wasnt to have a National Education Association, an IRS, among other alphabet depts.

    The states were to raise armies to lend to the federal government in case a state was attacked. For you attack one, you attack us all. The reason for the declaration of war. To be unified.

    To worship God or not to worship God. Even God grants people that right. Some to glory, some to eternal damnation.

    Among other things if I get time to get into it tomorrow. But thats a good start.
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Cultural Christians are still Christians, and they still overwhelmingly represent the majority of abortions obtained. Christians need to come to grips with that, and quit absolving themselves from blame for perpetuating the very thing they work against.
    Ok, what makes a christian a christian?
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    And by the way, Trump is the worst. president. ever.
    What has he done so far that makes him the worst?

    Foreign Affairs?

    Economy?

    Exactly what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Ok, what makes a christian a christian?
    As you well know, there are multiple answers to that, depending on what denomination you're talking to. But once a person has been baptized/accepted Christ as personal savior, whether OSAS or predestined or capable or incapable of sin based on their view of grace - they're a Christian. You don't get to take that away from them because in your mind they couldn't possibly be Christian while at the same time getting an abortion. They're Christian if they say they are, and you're unable to read their souls to say otherwise.
    So keep your candles burning

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    No she's not and no it doesn't.

    And by the way, Trump is the worst. president. ever.
    He is .. and I do not consider him prolife ... in the least. For him, it's simply a slogan.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
    - ABRAHAM LINCOLN, letter to Joshua F. Speed, August 22, 1855





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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    He is .. and I do not consider him prolife ... in the least. For him, it's simply a slogan.
    Everything for him is weighed by whether it's politically expedient for him, if it makes him look good, if it gives him a boost over his rivals, if it makes the crowd roar, if it gives him more power, if it will keep people focused on him, if it makes the news, if it gives Fox & Friends shivers of adoration running up and down the place where their self respect used to be.
    So keep your candles burning

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