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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Right now, they identify as Christians.
    I can paint myself red and call myself a firetruck, but it don't make it so

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    The magic works like this:

    If a Christian voted for prop 8, supported Kim Davis, shouted "build the wall!" prayed outside abortion clinics, and considered everyone left of Attila the Hun a "leftist," then they're a real Christian.

    If a Christian has obtained an abortion, they're not a real Christian.
    It's fairly simple. IF one claims the label of a Christian, they are ... a Christian. The only person who is capable of determining what or who they are is ... them. And yes, *real* Christians have had abortions. I knew several from my Christians school and church.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    The magic works like this:

    If a Christian voted for prop 8, supported Kim Davis, shouted "build the wall!" prayed outside abortion clinics, and considered everyone left of Attila the Hun a "leftist," then they're a real Christian.

    If a Christian has obtained an abortion, they're not a real Christian.
    No Christians murder, and no murderers are Christians.

    1st John 3:15 KJV " . . . no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him."
    "Those who believe in Christ" are all the Christians, Catholic or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Straight from the Bible.

    They will be known by their fruit.
    Words equal fruit. Oh, now I get it. Makes it so easy, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    They believed that decisions which effect millions of people should not be made by just a few people who were not even elected.
    Millions more voted for Clinton rather than Trump so not sure your reasoning holds up.

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    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    Contrary to what you said, the Founding Fathers of our once great nation didn't believe that immoral behavior was a "States rights issue".

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    They believed that decisions which effect millions of people should not be made by just a few people who were not even elected.
    The Founding Fathers based their decisions on what was said in Holy Scripture. They loathed democracy (majority rule), and embraced a constitutional republic where man's rights come from God.

    A Few Declarations of Founding Fathers and Early Statesmen on Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible
    https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fa...tianity-bible/
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    The Founding Fathers based their decisions on what was said in Holy Scripture. They loathed democracy (majority rule), and embraced a constitutional republic where man's rights come from God.
    Yes, and they also wanted the power to remain as close to the people as possible and that is the reason we read the following:

    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    The question of whether or not to make abortion legal should have been decided in each individual state and not by a handful of people who were not elected to anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    Words equal fruit.
    Words are cheap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Words are cheap!
    Yep, which is why calling yourself "born again" and somehow getting pluses for that is pointless.

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    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    The Founding Fathers based their decisions on what was said in Holy Scripture. They loathed democracy (majority rule), and embraced a constitutional republic where man's rights come from God.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Yes, and they also wanted the power to remain as close to the people as possible and that is the reason we read the following:

    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    Replace the word abortion with homosexuality/pedophilia/pederasty, incest or bestiality and see how ridiculous your statement is Aar...ahem...Gerald.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post

    Replace the word abortion with homosexuality/pedophilia/pederasty, incest or bestiality....
    why do that?

    Call it what it is

    Murder

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Replace the word abortion with homosexuality/pedophilia/pederasty, incest or bestiality and see how ridiculous your statement is Aar...ahem...Gerald.
    The only thing which can properly be described as being ridiculous is your confusion.

    Do you really think that the founders of the USA wanted the abortion issue to be decided by just a few people who were not elected to anything?

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    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    Replace the word abortion with homosexuality/pedophilia/pederasty, incest or bestiality and see how ridiculous your statement is Aar...ahem...Gerald.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    The only thing which can properly be described as being ridiculous is your confusion.

    Do you really think that the founders of the USA wanted the abortion issue to be decided by just a few people who were not elected to anything?

    Provide one quote (just one) where any of the Founding Fathers stated that immoral behavior should be left up to the respective States to decide.


    I've never seen such a statement, and I'm a long time student of our Christian Founding Fathers. Maybe you'll have better luck.
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    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

    Replace the word abortion with homosexuality/pedophilia/pederasty, incest or bestiality....

    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    why do that?

    Call it what it is

    Murder
    If murder should be allowed to be decided by the respective States, why shouldn't the above mentioned sins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Provide one quote (just one) where any of the Founding Fathers stated that immoral behavior should be left up to the respective States to decide.
    Before abortion was legalized it was the states who had passed laws which forbid it.

    Do you not even know this simple fact?

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