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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    bammy tried that and got slapped down by the federal judiciary
    This president who doesn't give a crap about the judiciary can't find any way to legally keep the families together? You really believe that clap trap?

    It is obvious he is using the kids as hostages to get his wall. It's all a part of the "Art of the Deal." The kids will suffer until he gets his wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Should the government take my kids away if I deliberately involve them in criminal activity?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinark View Post
    We are so far apart on what is moral and just
    We're probably a lot closer than you care to admit.

    Is theft wrong?

    Is murder wrong?

    Is bearing false witness against someone wrong?

    Is it wrong for a man to have an affair with another man's wife?

    it isn't worth having any further conversation.
    It's totally worth talking about.

    I consider any form of slavery to be wicked and I will fight with considerable effort to stop it from being allowed when I can.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.
    No. That's a cop out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    yes, let's
    (Barbarian notes that 66% of Americans disagree with Trump's policy of separating children from their parents)


    25. As you may know, some families seeking asylum from their home country cross the U.S. border illegally and then request asylum. In an attempt to discourage this, the Trump administration has been prosecuting the parents immediately, which means separating parents from their children. Do you support or oppose this policy?




    fuzzbutton objects:
    that's very different from the question I asked in the OP:
    Yes, it is. As you just learned, what has Americans angry is separating children from parents who cross the U.S. boarder illegally.

    How you feel about that is really not much of a concern to anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinark View Post
    This president who doesn't give a crap about the judiciary can't find any way to legally keep the families together? You really believe that clap trap?

    It is obvious he is using the kids as hostages to get his wall. It's all a part of the "Art of the Deal." The kids will suffer until he gets his wall.
    ^ This ... and it's repugnant. The WH and GOP need to just drop the pretense of caring about children.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
    - ABRAHAM LINCOLN, letter to Joshua F. Speed, August 22, 1855





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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    No.

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    Stripe - you're living in Taiwan still?

    What kind of coverage do you see over there in the Taiwanese media?


    reason I ask is that I usually listen to the CBC, but haven't for a few weeks. Did yesterday and the pending Canadian legislation legalizing pot got more coverage than the "trump torturing small children" drumbeat that's so loud on the internet

    do the Chinese care about white americans torturing small brown children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    ^ This ... and it's repugnant. The WH and GOP need to just drop the pretense of caring about children.
    They’ll be fine. Calm down kids are resilient. Nothing to see here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinark View Post
    This president who doesn't give a crap about the judiciary can't find any way to legally keep the families together?
    Trump knows of two ways to legally keep the families together

    1. Apply for immigration status at the American consulate in your home country and wait for legal immigration status

    2. Stay in your home country
    Last edited by ok doser; June 20th, 2018 at 10:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Stripe - you're living in Taiwan still?
    In New Zealand for a little while longer.

    What kind of coverage do you see over there in the Taiwanese media?
    The fake news MSM here has its left-leaning sob stories as high up as it can justify, but I get information from multiple sources.

    When I get back to the newspaper, it will be all over that.

    do the Chinese care about white americans torturing small brown children?
    Way to start a war, bro.

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    Looks like America won this time. Trump apparently caved and agreed to stop pulling children away from their parents.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peqGADGB_Eg


    America 1, Trump 0.
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    "torturing them", Barbie

    you're sposed to say "torturing them"

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    You guys can comfort yourselves in any way you like. America won. Pressure does matter, and decent people can have an effect even with someone like Trump.
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    Evidently Trump just took this away from the left. Next.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Pressure politics does matter



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinark View Post
    This president who doesn't give a crap about the judiciary can't find any way to legally keep the families together? You really believe that clap trap?

    It is obvious he is using the kids as hostages to get his wall. It's all a part of the "Art of the Deal." The kids will suffer until he gets his wall.
    Hypocrites holler about deporting and NOTHING about aborting babies.
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    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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