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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Question:

    What is God's first creation?

    Answer:

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1
    Pretty simple isn't it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Question:

    What is God's first creation?

    Answer:

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1
    I don't see a thing about Jesus being created in this text, nor any text for that matter.
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Pretty simple isn't it.
    Even a 1st grade sunday schools child knows how simple this is.
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Your theory has been disproved...but you will not let go of your pride. You wear this so called revelation you have with a badge of honor.
    Why are you trying to skirt around it? Everything was made through the Son so the SON is God's first creation. The Son himself is a creation for he is am IMAGE. Col 1:15 says he is a creature. He is a created FORM of the Father and the Father was pleased that the son contained his fullness.

    Proof you can't dispute.


    Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


    Are you understanding my view and why I have it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by keypurr View Post
    Why are you trying to skirt around it? Everything was made through the Son so the SON is God's first creation. The Son himself is a creation for he is am IMAGE. Col 1:15 says he is a creature. He is a created FORM of the Father and the Father was pleased that the son contained his fullness.

    Proof you can't dispute.


    Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


    Are you understanding my view and why I have it?
    The bible is not always translated correctly. Yahwah created this world for Yahshua.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    The bible is not always translated correctly. Yahwah created this world for Yahshua.

    Agree, that's why we need to prove all things.
    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keypurr View Post
    Why are you trying to skirt around it? Everything was made through the Son so the SON is God's first creation. The Son himself is a creation for he is am IMAGE. Col 1:15 says he is a creature. He is a created FORM of the Father and the Father was pleased that the son contained his fullness.

    Proof you can't dispute.


    Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


    Are you understanding my view and why I have it?
    I'm sorry. But after close reading of Colossians 1:15, I'm not seeing where it says Jesus was created. You doing mental gymnastics with the text isn't helping your cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keypurr View Post
    Are you understanding my view and why I have it?
    Yeah, I have a good handle on it. Totally disagree of course.
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Question:

    What is God's first creation?

    Answer:

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1

    Notice if you will, it doesn't say God created his Son first...
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Pretty simple isn't it.
    Simple is not truth BR. The secrets are in the words.
    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

    I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Question:

    What is God's first creation?

    Answer:

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1

    Notice if you will, it doesn't say God created his Son first...

    God created all THROUGH his Son. So his Son is the first creation.

    The Son is called a creature in Col 1:15 and God's exact IMAGE in Heb 1:3.


    The son is a CREATION, firstborn of all creation.


    He is a created FORM of God, a god. Yet not God.


    Doc I am trying so hard to get folks to understand me.
    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

    I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Yeah, I have a good handle on it. Totally disagree of course.
    But you can not disprove.

    Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    The spirit son of God??????
    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

    I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by keypurr View Post
    But you can not disprove.

    Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    The spirit son of God??????
    The Spirit of God is God. It is the heretic that tries to ADD "son" there.

    The Father is God.
    The Son is God.
    The Holy Spirit is God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    That explains why your an idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
    Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
    Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

    Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;



    God created ALL through his spirit son.
    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

    I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by keypurr View Post
    Why are you trying to skirt around it? Everything was made through the Son so the SON is God's first creation. The Son himself is a creation for he is am IMAGE. Col 1:15 says he is a creature. He is a created FORM of the Father and the Father was pleased that the son contained his fullness.

    Proof you can't dispute.


    Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


    Are you understanding my view and why I have it?
    I said
    lol Very true, I cant wait to see how they try to argue that.

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