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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman View Post
    I am not keen on separating the kids from their parents if it is true. Just send the whole family back where they came from. You have the issue of 'anchor' babies. Just send the entire family back to its home country or they can begin the process of legal immigration if they want to be here.
    many (most?) have no identification - mexico doesn't want them back, guatemala doesn't want them back, etc


    that's why mexico tries to control its border to the south


    we need a wall

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    When is the news media going to show any outrage about VETERANS being homeless? I was told by a person working with homeless veterans that there are almost 10,000 homeless veterans in my state alone. WE as a COUNTRY should be ashamed to have one veteran homeless.

    Where is the news media outrage about homeless children?
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    Yesteday's NBC news went far and wide with its "Trump backtracking" related to signing an executive order, but nowhere in almost 15 minutes of coverage, in a 30 minute segment, was mention made of the Flores consent decree from 1997 that underlies a great many of the issues related to separating children from parents attempting to illegally immigrate to the U.S.

    https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/a...at-the-border/

    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/20/174845...nt-immigration

    https://www.vox.com/2014/8/6/5971003...n-separate-ice

    The fact that the executive order may be litigated in favor of Flores was also not mentioned in the newscast. Nor was any mention of how badly things went with Obama when bumping up against Flores in 2014.

    Maybe it is just me, but as a long-time NBC newscast watcher, I have yet to see a segment each day since Jan 1 that did not mention something about Trump. Daily. Day after day. When he is mentioned in a favorable light, which has actually happened on a very few occasions, the mention is begrudgingly proffered by Lester Holt or Richard "war monger" Engel or Chuck "look!" Todd.

    My kingdom for a balanced newscast of all the facts versus one that subliminally attempts to point all the issues at one person. Does such a venue actually exist? If so, please point me to it. I am not looking for Trump gushing broadcasts, nor the opposite, just what used to be called news: newly received or noteworthy information, especially about recent or important events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman View Post
    I am not keen on separating the kids from their parents if it is true.
    Apparently, it's going to end now. Thank God. And thank everyone, including many republicans who pressured the administration to end this abuse.

    Just send the whole family back where they came from.
    At least, they'd be no worse off than before. Separating children from parents is intrinsically evil. To do it as a policy to discourage parents from applying for asylum is beyond evil. The prospects for a young girl in some places in Central America are so grim that parents were willing to face almost anything to get them out.

    You have the issue of 'anchor' babies.
    Yes. How big a problem that is, I don't know. (Barbarian checks)

    It's substantial, but declining:
    About 295,000 babies were born to unauthorized-immigrant parents in 2013, making up 8% of the 3.9 million U.S. births that year, according to a new, preliminary Pew Research Center estimate based on the latest available federal government data. This was a decline from a peak of 370,000 in 2007.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ants-declines/

    Just send the entire family back to its home country or they can begin the process of legal immigration if they want to be here.
    The law properly distinguishes between illegal immigrants and those seeking asylum. The former should be removed with families intact. The latter should be processed and a determination made as to the need for asylum.

    Our immigration policy is broken. When full enforcement of the law would result in damage to our economy, we need to rethink it. What's of great concern now, is the Obama policy of seeking out and deporting dangerous criminals first, has been abandoned, in favor of getting the easy targets, who aren't dangerous, but more easily found.

    That endangers every American.

    The first step would be to do an assessment of the economic and social effects of having so many people here illegally. To be credible, a bipartisan study should be made, and our immigration policy should be designed to address those findings.

    I'm sure that such a rational approach would enrage the extremists on the right and on the left. So I'm not optimistic about that happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    .......................... There are already so many infringements of the right of the people to keep and bear arms, that the only real champions of the essential or inalienable right would be those who are trying to repeal laws, not add new ones.
    You could repeal the machine-gun ban legislation!
    Everybody could buy a machine gun then...... Just think how many burglars an honest decent home-owner could shoot at one time with those.... ?

    Yeah........ I think I see that.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    You could repeal the machine-gun ban legislation!
    That's the NFA, 1934. Before that, people in America anyway could order machine guns through the mail. They cost I want to say about 45 dollars if memory serves, for a Thompson. 'Could be wrong on the cost, but not on mail order availability.
    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Everybody could buy a machine gun then...... Just think how many burglars an honest decent home-owner could shoot at one time with those.... ?
    Or bears or mountain lions, or rapists and murderers, kamikaze murderers, mass shooting murderers, all sorts of good targets out there, if you really think about it.
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    Yeah........ I think I see that.....

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    This will be Trump's legacy. Maybe even more than Putin and Stormy Daniels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post


    This will be Trump's legacy. Maybe even more than Putin and Stormy Daniels.
    In the liberal's dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post

    This will be Trump's legacy.
    seems to me he's got two and a half years to tick off you retarded emo-leftists
    even more


    unless you whiners get your act together and get him impeached

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Dang, those are the same foil blankets Obama was giving out to the kids. Didn't know the government could be so frugal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post


    This will be Trump's legacy. Maybe even more than Putin and Stormy Daniels.

    It's a historical cover for sure - of the worst president this country has ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    It's a historical cover for sure - of the worst president this country has ever seen.
    Martin van Buren and Richard Nixon certainly come close.

    Once, GW Bush was in the running. Reportedly, when asked about Trump, he just grins and says "I don't look so bad now, do I?"
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