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    Quote Originally Posted by George Affleck View Post
    We are well past the thin edge in my opinion.
    That was years ago.

    We may not see pedophilia but it will come eventually.
    Despite the laws having been shown to have tightened and more stringent where it comes to protecting children from abuse, sexual and otherwise? There isn't a single shred of support for that slippery slope fallacy...
    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    I knew I saw girls in a different way to boys long before puberty and adolescence kicked in. It's not simply about "sex". The innate attraction to the opposite sex was already wired.

    Someone I know who's gay - his mom and dad recognized very early on what they were seeing in their young son.
    So keep your candles burning

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Someone I know who's gay - his mom and dad recognized very early on what they were seeing in their young son.
    Same with a lad I knew at primary school. The mistake some of the more zealous often seem to make is confusing an innate attraction with actual sex. Adolescence and the onset of puberty simply develops the attraction to the next step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    ... innate attraction...


    no such thing, as you're using it

    the default setting is attraction to opposite sex - any deviation from that is a perversion of normal function

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Someone I know who's gay - his mom and dad recognized very early on what they were seeing in their young son.
    Hey, anna, hope all is well with you...

    For starters, you might want to re-read that chapter on Commitment and Consistency in your pdf copy of Cialdini's classic work "Influence."



    Rom. 5:6-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Google, download, and read...

    The Introduction in this book:

    Pdf Time Line Therapy And The Basis of Personality Tad James

    And Chapter VI in this book:

    Pdf Anthony Robbins UNLIMITED POWER -

    (The actual book, not the notes to the audio course)
    Thank you, I've added them to my reading list. What I have seen so far reminds me of Dianetics. I look forward to seeing how NLP stands up when the hard work is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpentdove View Post
    "Men study science as god not the God of science." ~ Adrian Rogers

    Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). The law is for the lawless (1 Ti 1:9).
    Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    if that's God's will, so be it


    would you risk prison to save the souls of others?
    So now that I've had some time to think about this. I want to thank you for taking one of my extreme examples and pushing it even further out to illustrate the point.

    We know what history and science say about trepanation, we know with absolute certainty that it does not work.

    So you say you would gladly hold a person down and do this to them and suggest it is to save his soul. But if it does not work how is his soul saved? If anything since brain damage and death is real possibilities, the only thing you might achieve is removing any future chance to save the said soul?

    You could not have illustrated my point better if you agreed with me. Thank You.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post

    So you say you would gladly hold a person down and do this to them and suggest it is to save his soul.

    I didn't mean to suggest that it was to save the soul of the unrepentant pervert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    If someone is born homosexual then they ain't responsible for it. You are just a moron.
    You’ve got to quit hiding from God. You will die, and you will die because you’re a sinner. A homo luvin sinner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    I didn't mean to suggest that it was to save the soul of the unrepentant pervert
    Oh? you just enjoy hurting people you don't like. Got it. Nice to know about you then but it adds nothing to the subject of the debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    So now that I've had some time to think about this. I want to thank you for taking one of my extreme examples and pushing it even further out to illustrate the point.

    We know what history and science say about trepanation, we know with absolute certainty that it does not work.

    So you say you would gladly hold a person down and do this to them and suggest it is to save his soul. But if it does not work how is his soul saved? If anything since brain damage and death is real possibilities, the only thing you might achieve is removing any future chance to save the said soul?

    You could not have illustrated my point better if you agreed with me. Thank You.
    Extremists tend to do that.

    Their Identity confusion cannot but compel that in them.

    They confuse their extremist extreme right as being "Conservative."

    Or as Scripture so aptly describes such...

    Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    Rom. 5:6-8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Extremists tend to do that.

    Their Identity confusion cannot but compel that in them.

    They confuse their extremist extreme right as being "Conservative."

    Or as Scripture so aptly describes such...

    Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    Rom. 5:6-8.
    A very relevant observation, particularly in light of his next reply. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    Oh? you just enjoy hurting people you don't like. Got it.

    unsurprisingly, you do not get it and I doubt you ever will

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    unsurprisingly, you do not get it and I doubt you ever will
    I am quite likely misunderstanding your meaning, if so I do apologize. Regardless of the reason though, if it does not work what is the point?

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