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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    In your mind you have won any debate without presenting any facts. You should seek some kind of help.
    I don't debate.

    Truth is to be received or rejected as it pleases the Almighty. He is glorified in either case, amen.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    It would be a pointless to expect you to accept and understand the truth.

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    I don't debate.

    Truth is to be received or rejected as it pleases the Almighty. He is glorified in either case, amen.
    You are not the Almighty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    It would be a pointless to expect you to accept and understand the truth.



    You are not the Almighty.
    "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man". KJV

    "The spiritual person, however, can evaluate everything, and yet he himself cannot be evaluated by anyone".CSB

    "The spiritual person evaluates everything but is subject to no one else's evaluation."

    Take your pick. They all shoot you down in flames.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man". KJV

    "The spiritual person, however, can evaluate everything, and yet he himself cannot be evaluated by anyone".CSB

    "The spiritual person evaluates everything but is subject to no one else's evaluation."

    Take your pick. They all shoot you down in flames.
    You need help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    You need help.
    Yes, I know. The help I need is the help I receive.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    1 Peter 3:19 commentary


    1 Peter 3:19

    After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits—

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    18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive (in / by) the Spirit. 19 After being made alive,////

    [
    d] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago

    Ecclesiastes 9:5

    For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten.

    Revelation 20:6

    Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection.

    The dead are presently awaiting the first resurrection.


    when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[e] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, ////

    Christ placed great importance on Baptism by having himself Baptized. We are saved by Baptism, not the Resurrection.


    22 (and which / who) has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand—with (angels / messengers), authorities and powers in submission to him.

    Footnotes:

    (d)
    1 Peter 3:19 Or but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which also

    (e)
    1 Peter 3:21 Or but an appeal to God for a clear conscience




    Captive


    Acts 8:23

    For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin.”

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    2 Corinthians 10:5

    We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

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    Colossians 2:8

    See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.

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    2 Timothy 2:26

    and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

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    Psalm 63:9

    But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth.

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    Isaiah 44:23

    Sing, O ye heavens; for the Lord hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.

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    There is above ground, and there is below ground.

    Ephesians 4:9

    (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

    Ephesians 4:10

    He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

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    9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[
    c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)

    Footnote:

    (c)
    Ephesians 4:9 Or the depths of the earth

    These brackets ( ) indicate that verses 9 through 10 were added to the text.



    Luke 23:43

    Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today(,) you will be with me in paradise.”

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    Christ himself was in the grave three days before God resurrected him.



    Pagan Christians have been busy corrupting the bible.

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    Post #66 is a little bit hard to follow, but the bottom line is this: Descending into the depths of the earth to witness to spirits is another Pagan insertion.

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