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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Someone has to...


    Carry on, my long-suffering friend - the journey is long but my faith in your fortitude is great.
    So keep your candles burning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Funny ... with a ring of truth! Wowza did he struggle with the words to that song ...

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    So keep your candles burning

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Carry on, my long-suffering friend - the journey is long but my faith in your fortitude is great.
    Misplaced...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Misplaced...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    So keep your candles burning

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    And what I want to know is where's the bread?

    If you're thinking that one could go two ways, the answer is yes.
    You aren't what you eat, but you're always what you swallow.

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    Does anyone here think this is constitutional? Can the Border Patrol routinely ask for documents beyond 100 miles of the border?

    A woman named Tiana Smalls rode Greyhound from Bakersfield to Las Vegas. Here's her story posted to FB. I've redacted some of her language for TOL, the link has the unedited version if you're looking for a direct quote:



    Ok. Storytime: this is kinda long but PLEASE READ. It's about my experience last night with these [redacted] border patrol agents.
    Last night, I rode the greyhound bus from Bakersfield to Las Vegas to visit family.
    When we got to the California/Nevada state line, as always, there's a checkpoint.
    (This checkpoint USED to be one where they made sure you weren't carrying fruits into California, bc of an invasive fruit fly species).
    Anyway...
    The bus driver makes an announcement: "We are being boarded by Border Patrol. Please be prepared to show your documentation upon request".
    WAIT. WHAT THE [redacted]?
    So you know I'm ready to act an [redacted].
    I stand up and say LOUDLY:
    THIS IS A VIOLATION OF YOUR 4TH AMENDMENT RIGHTS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW THEM [redacted]!!! This is illegal. We are not within 100 miles of an international border so that have NO authority to ask you for ANYTHING. TELL THEM TO [redacted] OFF!
    And, Since my Spanish sucks, I Google translated how to say that in Spanish and repeated myself:
    Esto es una violación de los derechos de su cuarta enmienda. ¡No tienes que mostrarles nada! Esto es ilegal No cumples, y no tengas miedo. Están equivocados, y no dejaremos pasar esto
    The lady next to me did not speak English. She looked terrified. I reassured her that I had her back.
    The agents get on. Proceed to announce that they are about to start asking for "documentation" from people.
    I Stand up and yell "I'm not showing you [redacted]! I'm not driving this bus, so you have NO RIGHT to ask me for anything! And the rest of you guys don't have to show them anything, either! This is harassment and racial profiling! Don't show them a gotdamn thing! We are not within 100 miles of a border so they have NO LEGAL RIGHT or jurisdiction here! GOOGLE IT!"
    The agents start to look exasperated, because they can see I'm willing to act a WHOLE DONKEY. One of them said "Fine. We can see that you're a citizen because of your filthy mouth". And then they just said "go ahead" to the bus driver and got off.
    Point is: These border patrol officers act like they do because they EXPECT people to be afraid of them and just comply. The lady next to me spoke NO ENGLISH, but she was a very kind woman. She looked TERRIFIED when they boarded. I felt it was my duty to defend her. We DO NOT LIVE in Nazi Germany. No one should be asked to present "papers" for interstate travel. I defended her, and I defended myself. We DO NOT HAVE to just take this [redacted] LYING down. What those officers did is WRONG and completely illegal. All it took was ONE LOUD [redacted] Black woman to let them know WE ARE NOT WITH THE [redacted]. [redacted] Y'ALL. And they backed off.
    Use your voice. Take a risk. Act an [redacted]. Because if you let them intimidate the poor Spanish speaking woman next to you, who do you think they're coming for next?
    So keep your candles burning

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    Law enforcement agents are legally permitted to lie to you about your rights, and indeed are trained to do this.

    You're on your own when it comes to asserting your rights. This woman was lucky. She might have been beaten up and arrested, and then let go before she was booked; there is rarely any consequence for police who do those kinds of things. Even if she sues, the police officers aren't punished; the taxpayers are.

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    White House tasks office with taping together papers after Trump rips them up


    President Trump reportedly has a habit of ripping up pieces of paper, including letters and official documents, that are required by law to be preserved, in what was described as his personal "filing system."

    Former staffers handling records management for the White House told Politico that they were tasked with taping the paper scraps together to ensure that the administration did not violate legal requirements to preserve presidential records.

    Solomon Lartey, who was terminated after nearly three decades of government service, told Politico that he and colleagues would use Scotch tape to put the pieces together "like a jigsaw puzzle."
    . . . .

    Reginald Young, Jr., another former staffer in the department, told Politico that the task felt well beneath his salary.
    "I'm looking at my director, and saying, 'Are you guys serious?'" he said. "We're making more than $60,000 a year, we need to be doing far more important things than this. . . .
    Staffers said that under former President Obama, records were carefully preserved and sent to the National Archives in accordance with the Presidential Records Act. The policy requires that all memos, letters, documents and papers touched by the president be kept as historical records in the National Archives.

    Another unnamed sourced told Politico that Trump would tear up "anything that happened to be on his desk that he was done with," and that aides were unable to prompt the president to break his habit. Lartey and Young said that as recently as their departure, staffers were still tasked with taping the pages back together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Law enforcement agents are legally permitted to lie to you about your rights, and indeed are trained to do this.

    You're on your own when it comes to asserting your rights. This woman was lucky. She might have been beaten up and arrested, and then let go before she was booked; there is rarely any consequence for police who do those kinds of things. Even if she sues, the police officers aren't punished; the taxpayers are.

    They weren't police. They were Border Patrol.
    So keep your candles burning

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