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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Congratulations on denying God's grace and making Him the author of their unbelief.

    The Lake of Fire awaits blasphemers like you.
    For the entire length of the old testament the nations were left in darkness as being atheist. You oppose the truth because the Truth is not in you.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    PS I don't expect you to have spiritual understanding, but I hoped you'd have the ability to check the grammatical facts I've posted, but it seems not.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    For the entire length of the old testament the nations were left in darkness as being atheist.
    When He dealt with NATIONS, yes. But for now God does not deal with nations but with INDIVIDUALS, any of whom may be saved if they believe the Gospel of grace.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    [most will be very surprised]


    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    When He dealt with NATIONS, yes. But for now God does not deal with nations but with INDIVIDUALS, any of whom may be saved if they believe the Gospel of grace.
    I was simply using scripture to point out the sovereign right of the Almighty to save or to damn.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Scripture nowhere says He damns individuals to Hell for rejecting the Gospel that He refused to let them believe. That is a lie of Satan and you're promoting it.
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    When He dealt with NATIONS, yes. But for now God does not deal with nations but with INDIVIDUALS, any of whom may be saved if they believe the Gospel of grace.
    Besides which...God has always dealt with individuals as well. We see it throughout the OT....individuals who were not "left in darkness" as Truster claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Besides which...God has always dealt with individuals as well. We see it throughout the OT....individuals who were not "left in darkness" as Truster claims.
    True true.
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Maybe your question needs rewording.

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    Always a possibility, but no one else seemed to miss the thrust of it. Could be a cultural/language thing. In any event, thanks for the other answers and for taking time to chime in on the whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    Could be a cultural/language thing.
    It's that bizarre accent.

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    Back on topic, what are Trusty and Muster arguing about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    It's that bizarre accent.
    True story. I was part of a group of teachers talking through a work session on RTI when, during a lull, one decided to go on for a bit about her irritation with people moving into the South, particularly the coastal area where we live. She lamented the impact of it on roadways and favorite restaurants, etc. Then she looked over to me and said, "No offense."

    So I said, "I'm sorry, but I couldn't understand you. Could you say that again with the actual vowel sounds?" She was a good sport about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Back on topic, what are Trusty and Muster arguing about?
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    Looks like an ill wind blew away a weeks posts. It et a Wrap in Quixote's and everything past the first post of this year's Cub Reporters thread.

    Anyone else sustain much damage? I mean, a week's worth of posts for some of us is a good bit of posting. Or, a day to a few around here, so they might not miss them and heaven knows the rest of us won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    Looks like an ill wind blew away a weeks posts. It et a Wrap in Quixote's and everything past the first post of this year's Cub Reporters thread.

    Anyone else sustain much damage? I mean, a week's worth of posts for some of us is a good bit of posting. Or, a day to a few around here, so they might not miss them and heaven knows the rest of us won't.

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    Indeed. Would have been informative to know how these erasures of posts came about. I hope if it is a bug in the vBulletin update process that it has been reported to them. Unfortunately the Wayback Machine failed to capture any snapshots from the past week, too.

    Then again, there do seem to be some June posts in the Archive:
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Scripture nowhere says He damns individuals to Hell for rejecting the Gospel that He refused to let them believe. That is a lie of Satan and you're promoting it.
    John promoted it as well;

    "He that trusteth on him is not condemned: but he that trusteth not is condemned already, because he hath not trusted in the name of the only begotten Son of Elohim".
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

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    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    Indeed. Would have been informative to know how these erasures of posts came about. I hope if it is a bug in the vBulletin update process that it has been reported to them. Unfortunately the Wayback Machine failed to capture any snapshots from the past week, too.

    Then again, there do seem to be some June posts in the Archive:
    http://theologyonline.com/archive/in...p/t-90953.html

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