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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Why?
    I did not create anything or cause anything of it so I do not know the reason.

    To say there is nothing wrong is to insist you know and try to present what you believe it really is without any sin, but you will still arrive at something that is false, wrong, and therefore sin.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
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    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    What was said, whatever it was.
    You told @CatholicCrusader to turn from his "idols" and statues. He responded that the statues are art. You then replied, "not good." Why is it not good to have statues? There were statues of Cherubim in the OT, were there not?


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    I did not create anything or cause anything of it so I do not know the reason.
    No no... I meant why do you believe that Catholicism is bad?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    You told @CatholicCrusader to turn from his "idols" and statues. He responded that the statues are art. You then replied, "not good." Why is it not good to have statues? There were statues of Cherubim in the OT, were there not?




    No no... I meant why do you believe that Catholicism is bad?
    Because it is. How do I know? My Dad is an Ex-Catholic and then I learned about Catholicism.

    I don't know that the art response was in regard to statues. It is just a statue is not a legitimate excuse for an idol, even in the United States of America. Read the commandment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Because it is. How do I know? My Dad is an Ex-Catholic and then I learned about Catholicism.

    I don't know that the art response was in regard to statues. It is just a statue is not a legitimate excuse for an idol, even in the United States of America. Read the commandment.
    Can you give an example of a Catholic doctrine that you believe to be sinful or erroneous?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Can you give an example of a Catholic doctrine that you believe to be sinful or erroneous?
    As a Jew I do not want to have anything to do with Catholicism.

    I was a Christian and heard something about Christian doctrine or teaching.

    I do not know about Catholic doctrine.

    Sorry.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I do not know about Catholic doctrine.
    If you do not know what we believe, why do you think we're wrong?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    If you do not know what we believe, why do you think we're wrong?
    If I knew what you believed, truly knew it, would the knew be that I understand accept and believe it? I can disagree without teaching what I believe to be false. Also, picking at one thing does not do away with the whole, which was my intention.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Also, picking at one thing does not do away with the whole, which was my intention.
    You said Catholicism is "bad" and "sinful." But you do not seem to be able to provide a single example of what makes it "bad."
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    You said Catholicism is "bad" and "sinful." But you do not seem to be able to provide a single example of what makes it "bad."
    We have discussed idols. Did you want me to bring up something else?

    Idols are against God's Law, His Commandments, Torah.

    I do not know any Catholic Doctrine about Idols. But I do not want to learn one. It is reprehensible.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I knew about this type of thing or not as a Christian. It was discussed. But you have a new version of it. I never dreamed of it because I am a saved born again Christian. I can never lose my salvation. But I am a Jew, I observe God's Commandments, His Commands, so people say that I am not a Christian. Okay. It is not up to me for someone else to call me a Christian.
    You are NOT a saved born again Christian because you CONTINUOUSLY tell people that you are an "ex-Christian" and that means you are NOT a Christian And you reject Christianity because you were once a Christian and you ate no longer a Christian. YOU , not anyone else, tell people you are no longer a Christian because you once were but now reject Christianity. You cannot have it both ways. You are either a Christian or you are not....YOU ARE NOT as you CONSTANTLY tell people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I do not know any Catholic Doctrine about Idols. But I do not want to learn one. It is reprehensible.
    And we're back to the beginning.

    Do you call the statues in the Old Testament "idols" ?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tnkrbl123! View Post
    You are NOT a saved born again Christian because you CONTINUOUSLY tell people that you are an "ex-Christian" and that means you are NOT a Christian And you reject Christianity because you were once a Christian and you ate no longer a Christian. YOU , not anyone else, tell people you are no longer a Christian because you once were but now reject Christianity. You cannot have it both ways. You are either a Christian or you are not....YOU ARE NOT as you CONSTANTLY tell people
    Do you believe that to be a Christian you have to believe in the Trinity and you can't observe Old Covenant Commands or Commandments? I don't. But that is one reason I am not a Christian.

    To say I am a Christian might approve of the Trinity, especially if you associate the two. Otherwise it does not matter to me. To be called a Christian is not up to me. God knows if I am a Christian or not. I can insist, or teach the truth every time, but it may be that the person has never heard of the Trinity and hopefully (here is the danger) never will.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

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    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

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    Have you ever had to choose between being a Jew and a Christian? I have, and I am no longer a Gentile.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    And we're back to the beginning.

    Do you call the statues in the Old Testament "idols" ?
    Crazy. I do not know where your mind or thoughts are at.

    Statues are idols. Read the commandment. What you are referring to I do not know.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tnkrbl123! View Post
    You are NOT a saved born again Christian
    No one is born again today.

    The Bible says that those who are saved DIED and are made a NEW creation in Christ.

    The old things are gone, not born again.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
    Terence Mc Lean

    [most will be very surprised]


    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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