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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Certainly ... the difference is intelligence, competency and temperament. The GOP has no one but themselves to blame for using the sexual history of a POTUS as a means to work towards impeachment. Also, the country was 100% safer under Clinton because he was bright enough to understand that spouting off about the prospective use of nuclear weapons was a serious threat not to be used as a means to distract.
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    No shifting the goalpost. If Trump is an immoral dirtbag (and he apparently is), he is still unquestionably qualified for POTUS because another (worse) dirtbag was unquestionably qualified despite his dirtbaggery. Clinton's predatory abuses and rapes were just about sex, you told us, and none of our business.

    Okay...so is this.

    If you drones want to get into the separate issue of professional competence, fine. Start another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    But Bill Clinton's pass does for conservatives, even though Trump makes him look like a monk by comparison . Typical double standard and pure hypocrisy .
    Indeed ... if the argument is that sexuality immorality can be overlooked if someone is a Christian, then there is no need to mention Clinton's sexual immorality.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
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    Reminder: pretty much everything Trump has been accused of happened when he was a Democrat. It's off limits to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Don't ask insincere questions.
    Oh, I'm completely sincere. I really want to know how you're justifying to yourself your embrace of the least Christian man in American politics. What you have done is expose your hypocrisy. That's why you can't answer any of my fairly simple questions about your delicately-balanced rationalization. You play the tough-love Christian role, but you are really far more interested in anyone who sticks their finger in the eyes of the people you hate.
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Oh, I'm completely sincere. I really want to know how you're justifying to yourself your embrace of the least Christian man in American politics. What you have done is expose your hypocrisy. That's why you can't answer any of my fairly simple questions about your delicately-balanced rationalization. You play the tough-love Christian role, but you are really far more interested in anyone who sticks their finger in the eyes of the people you hate.
    Indeed ... even if the argument were to be made that "now he is a Christian and the past doesn't count", it should still be expected for someone to ACKNOWLEDGE their *past* rather than lie and rationalize.

    Something such as "Yes. It happened and I am 100% responsible for my actions and they were 100% wrong".

    Instead we get this:

    "It was locker room talk, as I told you,"

    "If you look at Bill Clinton, far worse."


    Sincere regret would have been something along the lines of "I was wrong and regret my words and ask for the forgiveness of Arianne Zucker." Nope, it was *locker room talk*. That kind of *apology* is not about regretting the action but regretting "getting caught".

    I am allowed to decide which politicians as well as other human beings are actually capable of regret ...
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    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
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    Mueller's nonexistent case is disintegrating. Two women who said he assaulted them have dropped their cases. He's right at 50% approval.

    They got nothing and know it, so now they're starting in on this vague "competency " angle. Poor dears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    No shifting the goalpost. If Trump is an immoral dirtbag (and he apparently is), he is still unquestionably qualified for POTUS because another (worse) dirtbag was unquestionably qualified despite his dirtbaggery. Clinton's predatory abuses and rapes were just about sex, you told us, and none of our business.

    Okay...so is this.

    If you drones want to get into the separate issue of professional competence, fine. Start another thread.
    Uh no. The sex part keeps it front page. The real problem with Trump is his basic lack of understanding and his love of the lie along with his continuous need to have his ego stroked. "My crowd was the biggest ever" "Climate change is a Chinese hoax", "The judge is a Mexican and unfair", "Crime is the worst it has been in years" "Joe Arpaio is good man" "I would have won the popular vote except for those millions of illegals voting".

    He gets his ego stroked at rallies but does not have the courage to hold a real press conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    Uh no. The sex part keeps it front page.

    There is no sex part. Wasn't for Clinton, not now either.
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    Agree or disagree, millions of Americans are not interested in what a citizen did years before becoming involved in politics.

    Democrats say, you must be concerned anyway...but what Clinton did while in politics just doesn't matter, so ignore that.

    Hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Mueller's nonexistent case is disintegrating. Two women who said he assaulted them have dropped their cases. He's right at 50% approval.

    They got nothing and know it, so now they're starting in on this vague "competency " angle. Poor dears.
    It appears as though every weapon used against our President fails. I believe it's God's Will that Trump is in office and will remain there as long as God wills him to stay there. I also believe that there are 'dark forces' influencing the far-left.

    Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Oh, I'm completely sincere. I really want to know how you're justifying to yourself your embrace of the least Christian man in American politics. What you have done is expose your hypocrisy. That's why you can't answer any of my fairly simple questions about your delicately-balanced rationalization. You play the tough-love Christian role, but you are really far more interested in anyone who sticks their finger in the eyes of the people you hate.
    Are YOU that confident in your own standing before God the Father?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    Are YOU that confident in your own standing before God the Father?
    I'm an atheist.
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    [COLOR=#000000][FONT=ABeeZee]Agree or disagree, millions of Americans are not interested in what a citizen did years before becoming involved in politics.
    Says the guy still talking about Bill Clinton. You have declared it to be of no interest. So much so, in fact, that you started a whole thread about your disinterest. Of course, if no one cared, we wouldn't be talking about this and you wouldn't feel compelled to start threads trying to dismiss the charges, and the hypocrisy you use to do so.


    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Democrats say, you must be concerned anyway...but what Clinton did while in politics just doesn't matter, so ignore that.
    He's been out of office for 18 years, and you're just assuming that the people who are upset with Trump now would have defended Clinton then.

    Trump is in office now, and he's lying about these (potentially illegal, definitely scummy) affairs this week. Still no problem?
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    I'm an atheist.
    Someday you'll be standing before the God that you now reject, and you'll be a believer at that time.

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