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    How to tell if you're a Marxist

    As you read the following see how many of the institutions of government mentioned are ideas that you support. The more of them you support, the more marxist you are in your political ideas. The way I see things, we are already a marxist state, we, meaning most of the US public, just doesn't realize it. It seems that most marxists here don't even realize they are marxist.

    ARE Americans practicing Communism? Read the 10 Planks of The Communist Manifesto to discover the truth and learn how to know your enemy...
    Karl Marx describes in his communist manifesto, the ten steps necessary to destroy a free enterprise system and replace it with a system of omnipotent government power, so as to effect a communist socialist state. Those ten steps are known as the Ten Planks of The Communist Manifesto… The following brief presents the original ten planks within the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart for each of the planks. From comparison it's clear MOST Americans have by myths, fraud and deception under the color of law by their own politicians in both the Republican and Democratic and parties, been transformed into Communists.
    Another thing to remember, Karl Marx in creating the Communist Manifesto designed these planks AS A TEST to determine whether a society has become communist or not. If they are all in effect and in force, then the people ARE practicing communists.
    Communism, by any other name is still communism, and is VERY VERY destructive to the individual and to the society!!
    The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...
    1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
    Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)
    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
    Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".
    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
    Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
    Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).
    5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
    Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.
    6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
    Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.
    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
    Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.
    8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.
    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
    Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.
    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
    Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.

    You can read the rest of this article at: http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist...to-Planks.html

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    How to tell if you are a moron? Believe what freeloader writes.

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    I doubt if freeloader ever read the Communist Manifesto. In fact, Marx hated all the things that freeloader hates:

    For a modern reader, Marx's discussion of the second subgroup perhaps deserves the most consideration. The Conservative Socialism that Marx condemns is precisely the attitude embraced by countries like the United States toward the plight of workers. Welfare, Social Security, and a minimum wage are all measures that Marx would dismiss as attempts to preserve the capitalist system by making the situation of the proletariat tolerable.
    http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy...nist/section4/

    Freeloader, like all classical Marxists, decries these things. He differs from most Marxists, by supposing that Marx promoted them.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    You be pretty hilarious, barby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffreeloader View Post
    You be pretty hilarious, barby.
    Remember when I told you to be especially careful when someone told you something you really want to believe? It would have saved you some embarrassment this time.

    You're not the only one. I've argued with admitted Marxists who were furious when I pointed out that Marxism rejects socialistic ideas that fall short of complete control of everything by the state.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffreeloader View Post
    You be pretty hilarious, barby.
    Yeah, he's as funny as a guy with an ingrown toenail dropping a bowling ball on his own foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    I doubt if freeloader ever read the Communist Manifesto.
    I'll bet you have a copy of it in every room of your house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    How to tell if you are a moron? Believe what freeloader writes.
    Have a nice vacation J-dog. Send us a postcard if you have a moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    I'll bet you have a copy of it in every room of your house.
    Even Marxists like freeloader don't read it much, these days. It's kind of an embarrassment for people like him. Marx was pretty much 100% off base on his projection of history.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    Yeah, he's as funny as a guy with an ingrown toenail dropping a bowling ball on his own foot.
    It is rather amusing to watch his desperation grow. Now he is alleging that he doesn't even recognize the 10 planks Marx laid out to destroy a free society. That they are word-for-word copies doesn't seem to matter to him. He'll deny that they are. Guess maybe I should just post the entire manifesto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffreeloader View Post
    Guess maybe I should just post the entire manifesto.
    Since you have a copy handy, why not do that? Let's see what you've got.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    LOL. Your objections just keep on getting more childish all the time as your desperation keeps on growing. It's as if you're implying the Communist Manifesto is hard to find. That's pretty humorous. Anything just to distract from the reality of what I posted. But then that's the only tool left in your toolbox. The last thing you want is an honest discussion of the facts pointed out by the author.

    Pretty funny how you, a supposed libertarian, are so triggered by a web page posted by another libertarian. You, seemingly, don't even recognize libertarian thought. The irony just keeps on growing and you keep on exposing who you really are.

    Here's one of the last lines on the web page.
    VOTE LIBERTARIAN, the only political party in America that still firmly supports and diligently abides by the Constitution of the united States of America.
    And you imply the page is rubbish. You're a funny guy. You make me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffreeloader View Post
    It is rather amusing to watch his desperation grow. Now he is alleging that he doesn't even recognize the 10 planks Marx laid out to destroy a free society. That they are word-for-word copies doesn't seem to matter to him. He'll deny that they are. Guess maybe I should just post the entire manifesto.
    Yeah, hopefully he will be successful in finding someone to read it to him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffreeloader View Post
    LOL. Your objections just keep on getting more childish all the time as your desperation keeps on growing.
    Seems to me that you'd be more effective if you learned to argue effectively, rather than get mad and verbally abusive.

    It's as if you're implying the Communist Manifesto is hard to find.
    You suggested you might actually post parts that supported your claims. I replied that might be a good idea. Suddenly, you don't want to do it. I think I know why.

    Pretty funny how you, a supposed libertarian, are so triggered by a web page posted by another libertarian.
    I'm just noting that paranoia and conspiracy stories aren't very "liberatarian." He claims to be a libertarian, but most libertarians are rational people. You, seemingly, don't even recognize libertarian thought. But then, you seem to be more attracted to Marxism.

    I imagine you did intend to post at at least some of the Communist Manifesto, but then learned what was in it, and realized that wouldn't be a very good idea.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

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    Another example..

    Gun Control..

    “A free people ought to be armed.”
    – George Washington

    https://americainchains2009.wordpres...d-gun-control/


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    6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

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