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Thread: My ‘Sex Change’ Was a Myth. Why Trying to Change One’s Sex Will Always Fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    MY personal views are what counts in this discussion of ours.
    of course they do

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    Dante, you've succeeded at boring 'Old GM,' therefore, I must discontinue our little discussion and seek out a more interesting exchange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    Since Walt Heyer had two sex change operations both n his view must must have been failures, the first didn't make him a woman and the second didn't make him a man.
    Which is why it is so important for anyone who is requesting this surgery go through the mandatory psychotherapy and evaluation ... it's a complicated issue that should not be determined based on the mere personal opinions of outsiders.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
    - ABRAHAM LINCOLN, letter to Joshua F. Speed, August 22, 1855





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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    Drapetomania?
    Fictitious mental disease made up by slave holders that has nothing to do with this thread.

    The Troll Shredder--Brrrtttttt!

    June is Gay Pride Month.Tolerance and diversity? More like tolerate perversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman View Post
    Fictitious mental disease made up by slave holders that has nothing to do with this thread.
    it sounds like you are saying that applying the label of mentally ill or diseased to people who don't conform to another's arbitrary standard is somehow wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    it sounds like you are saying that applying the label of mentally ill or diseased to people who don't conform to another's arbitrary standard is somehow wrong
    Walt Heyer is a person who has lived the sex change road and can testify that the procedure is harmful. This is by no means arbitrary. Cool down the polemic, or you will be booted from the thread.

    The Troll Shredder--Brrrtttttt!

    June is Gay Pride Month.Tolerance and diversity? More like tolerate perversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    and where does gender identity come from?
    "Gender identity" is a concept that comes from wicked hearts and minds.
    It has no relationship to truth.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    The reality is that there was change and almost all who went through the change view it as a positive and as a success. Your denials or attacks on them don't change reality.
    Almost all people who get makeup tattoos view it as a positive and as a positive and as a success.
    Permanent makeup, or cosmetic tattooing, is a fast-growing part of the health and beauty industry.

    If you have faint eyebrows, no eyebrows, or partial eyebrows, a cosmetic tattoo can help. A lip tattoo can reduce "lipstick bleed," and give definition to the lip line. With a colored lip tattoo, lip scars disappear, plus you can kiss lipstick good-bye. After an eyeliner tattoo, you can put away your eye pencils for several years.

    That doesn't mean it is anything more than a cosmetic change, just like "sex change" is just a cosmetic change, not a gender change.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    So you now admit that gender identity exists.
    The technical term for the mental illness is gender dysphoria or gender identity disorder.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    You do realize that it is a pretty common defense mechanism for those in denial to declare their personal views are the only real ones don't you?
    Thank you for identifying the way people with gender dysphoria defend their delusions.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    it sounds like you are saying that applying the label of mentally ill or diseased to people who don't conform to another's arbitrary standard is somehow wrong
    There is nothing arbitrary about there being only two genders: male and female.
    Claiming that there are more genders than two is the arbitrary standard that comes from mentally ill and wicked people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman View Post
    Walt Heyer is a person who has lived the sex change road and can testify that the procedure is harmful. This is by no means arbitrary. Cool down the polemic, or you will be booted from the thread.
    and hundreds of thousands can testify the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    "Gender identity" is a concept that comes from wicked hearts and minds.
    It has no relationship to truth.
    It's OK to admit that you don't know something

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Almost all people who get makeup tattoos view it as a positive and as a positive and as a success.
    Permanent makeup, or cosmetic tattooing, is a fast-growing part of the health and beauty industry.

    If you have faint eyebrows, no eyebrows, or partial eyebrows, a cosmetic tattoo can help. A lip tattoo can reduce "lipstick bleed," and give definition to the lip line. With a colored lip tattoo, lip scars disappear, plus you can kiss lipstick good-bye. After an eyeliner tattoo, you can put away your eye pencils for several years.

    That doesn't mean it is anything more than a cosmetic change, just like "sex change" is just a cosmetic change, not a gender change.
    If it's just a cosmetic change why all the attacks and denouncements directed to those who have had it done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    The technical term for the mental illness is gender dysphoria or gender identity disorder.
    but as you just said it has no relation to the truth

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