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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose Fly View Post
    If some Christians want to run around telling everyone that to be a Christian you have to believe the earth is flat and only 6,000 years old, I say let 'em.
    7000, and to be a Christian, you have to have a relationship with God, not believe the earth is young or old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    The article sure does. You should read it.
    So, not one piece of evidence to contradict a 4.54 billion year old earth. Not from you, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose Fly View Post
    If some Christians want to run around telling everyone that to be a Christian you have to believe the earth is flat and only 6,000 years old, I say let 'em.
    Indeed. But the problem is that once someone has made the high emotional investment in the absurdities of christianity, there is little they won't believe, which can cause subsequent problems.

    Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuu View Post
    So, not one piece of evidence to contradict a 4.54 billion year old earth. Not from you, anyway.

    Stuart
    Ignoring evidence doesn't make it go away, Stuart.

    Go read through the link. You might learn something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    7000, and to be a Christian, you have to have a relationship with God, not believe the earth is young or old.
    6days said an ancient earth "destroys the purpose of Calvery". Is he wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Ignoring evidence doesn't make it go away, Stuart.
    And asserting that evidence exists does not make it magically appear.

    Go read through the link. You might learn something.
    What would I learn, do you think? What is the single, devastating point that in itself completely disproves a 4.54 billion year old earth, and how exactly does it achieve that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose Fly View Post
    6days said an ancient earth "destroys the purpose of Calvary". Is he wrong?
    He is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuu View Post
    And asserting that evidence exists does not make it magically appear.
    No, but providing it, as I have done, for you to view shows that it does exist.

    What would I learn, do you think?
    I don't know. You should go read the link and stop asking so many questions.

    What is the single, devastating point that in itself completely disproves a 4.54 billion year old earth, and how exactly does it achieve that?

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    Perhaps you should go read the link and find out.

    Stuart, your bias is showing. Stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuu View Post
    Indeed. But the problem is that once someone has made the high emotional investment in the absurdities of christianity, there is little they won't believe, which can cause subsequent problems.

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    For themselves perhaps. But the survey data is pretty clear...Christianity's anti-scientific stance is driving people away from the faith, especially young people.

    So when they want to argue a flat and young earth, let them take the stage and give 'em a microphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuu View Post
    Indeed. But the problem is that once someone has made the high emotional investment in the absurdities of christianity, there is little they won't believe, which can cause subsequent problems.
    Do you mean like Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Lent, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose Fly View Post
    For themselves perhaps. But the survey data is pretty clear...Christianity's anti-scientific stance is driving people away from the faith, especially young people.

    So when they want to argue a flat and young earth, let them take the stage and give 'em a microphone.
    Lumping flat-earthers in with the rest of Biblical creationists is an insult to Biblical creationists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose Fly View Post
    For themselves perhaps. But the survey data is pretty clear...Christianity's anti-scientific stance is driving people away from the faith, especially young people.

    So when they want to argue a flat and young earth, let them take the stage and give 'em a microphone.
    I have become increasingly conflicted over the years in regards to creationism and scientific communication. If you are looking for a basic theoretical explanation, ironically it is often the introduction on a creationist website that gives the best grounding in a topic. I guess this is done to explain the context to an audience who are fairly scientifically ignorant, and the writers must have a great deal of time and other resources to prepare these carefully. Of course the next thing you read down the page is patent nonsense that aims to discredit the carefully explained science.

    So while I agree with you about people being turned off by nonsense, there may also be a way to rehabilitate the fraudsters by destroying the nonsense and embracing the good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    No, but providing it, as I have done, for you to view shows that it does exist.
    Sorry? What did you 'provide', exactly?

    I don't know. You should go read the link and stop asking so many questions. Perhaps you should go read the link and find out. Stuart, your bias is showing. Stop it.
    One fact that disproves the 4.54 billion year age of the earth? Can you articulate one?

    Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Do you mean like Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Lent, etc?
    Well yes, most christian festivals are pagan holidays that have been assimilated.

    But what I really mean is the ridiculousness of believing that a man walked again after he had been executed by the Romans, or that someone could be born of only one parent, or could walk on the surface of water, or that you can know anything of what Jesus said, or know anything about his childhood when there are no eyewitness accounts for anything that Jesus did.

    If you believe that list, you will believe anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuu View Post
    Sorry? What did you 'provide', exactly?
    A link to evidence, which you are trying extremely hard to ignore.

    Here it is again:

    http://kgov.com/c14

    One fact that disproves the 4.54 billion year age of the earth? Can you articulate one?

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    The article linked above in this comment does.

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