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    Quote Originally Posted by CabinetMaker View Post
    So you are not going to even try to explain what process created the radio active elements in the crust? Tell me, if you will not or can not explain your views, why should anybody listen to anything you say?
    Try googling piezoelectricity.

    Quote Originally Posted by CabinetMaker View Post
    What is most interesting about Walt's hypothesis is that they require that God's act of creation was not completed by the sixth day.
    Talk about a straw man.

    Radioactive elements, meteors, and comets were all created thousands of years after God's completed act of creation on day 6.
    No, not created. Formed, as a result of a world wide natural disaster.

    Doesn't seem like Walt is doing a very god job of explaining how creation happened in 6 days if somethings weren't created until the thousands of years later.
    Straw man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    If you cared, you would have read the link that you were given.



    You shouldn't listen. You should put me on ignore and never mention me again.

    I don't care what you believe. I'm looking for a rational discussion of ideas. However, your sole ambition is to disagree with anything that denies your precious Darwinism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Try googling piezoelectricity.
    I did. I saw what Walt said and I saw other research on the subject. I am not convinced that piezoelectric electric effects create sufficient energy to fuse atoms.



    Talk about a straw man.



    No, not created. Formed, as a result of a world wide natural disaster.
    Ah, equivocation. Always a good response when you cant address the point raised head on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CabinetMaker View Post
    Theproblemwiththat isthatyouhavenoideawhatarationalconversationis.Iti s notrationaltoagreewitheverythingyousayoreverything I say.Itisrationaltodiscussthedifferences.Itisnotrat ional toinsultpeoplesimplybecausetheydon'tagreewithyou.


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    E≈mc2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    But I 'demand' it from Exodus 20:11 KJV

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    That we have learned to estimate the apparent age of the universe, tells us how much work God did in creating everything. He did over 13 billion years of work in just six days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    That we have learned to estimate the apparent age of the universe, tells us how much work God did in creating everything. He did over 13 billion years of work in just six days!

    and yet he did it in such a manner that he had to redo the earth within a few thousand years

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    Quote Originally Posted by CabinetMaker View Post
    So you are not going to even try to explain what process created the radio active elements in the crust? Tell me, if you will not or can not explain your views, why should anybody listen to anything you say?
    In day one God said..."Let there be light." Radiation began. This is why there are radio active elements in all matter. Radiometric dating traces backward to when God created light.
    Radiation is energy that travels in the form of waves (electromagnetic radiation) or high-speed particles (particulate radiation). Particulate radiation happens when an unstable (or radioactive) atom disintegrates. Electromagnetic (EM) radiation, on the other hand, has no mass and travels in waves. EM radiation can range from very low energy to very high energy, and we call this span the electromagnetic spectrum. Within the EM spectrum, there are two types of radiation -- ionizing and non-ionizing.

    Electromagnetic (EM) radiation is a stream of photons, traveling in waves. The photon is the base particle for all forms of EM radiation. But what's a photon? It's a bundle of energy -- of light -- always in motion.
    https://science.howstuffworks.com/radiation.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
    In day one God said..."Let there be light." Radiation began. This is why there are radio active elements in all matter. Radiometric dating traces backward to when God created light.

    https://science.howstuffworks.com/radiation.htm
    It might be interesting to note that Dr Wiens, the author of "radiometric dating from Christian perspective" was also the primary scientist for the Genesis Project, which captured and measured solar winds to trace back to the moment of God's creation of the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    That we have learned to estimate the apparent age of the universe, tells us how much work God did in creating everything. He did over 13 billion years of work in just six days!
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    and yet he did it in such a manner that he had to redo the earth within a few thousand years
    He did it in such a way that permits us to freely disbelieve in Him, no matter how advanced our science becomes, year after year, in characterizing His handiwork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    He did it in such a way that permits us to freely disbelieve in Him, no matter how advanced our science becomes, year after year, in characterizing His handiwork.
    Science actually points us toward God. We know there is a creator because of the amazing and intricate design he has woven.
    The reason why there are many godless scientists is that humans are born in rebellion to God. Many are looking for a way to hide and avoid God. This is the nature of humans who are unreconciled to God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
    Many are looking for a way to hide
    Speaking of which, who are you? Who have you been? This isn't your first rodeo at TOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    He did it in such a way that permits us to freely disbelieve in Him, no matter how advanced our science becomes, year after year, in characterizing His handiwork.
    That is really not responsive to my comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    Speaking of which, who are you? Who have you been? This isn't your first rodeo at TOL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    Speaking of which, who are you? Who have you been? This isn't your first rodeo at TOL.
    This is the first time on this site. No other names have been used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    Speaking of which, who are you? Who have you been? This isn't your first rodeo at TOL.
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    They're easy to spot.

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    This makes me laugh. I post that science points toward God and share about radiation being in the very first moment of God's creation. Then, I get posters who avoid the data, but speculate about myself. Is this a general tactic at theology online or is it specific of a few posters when they struggle with the topic?
    In any case, don't let your hearts be troubled. I am brand new to theology online. I have posted for awhile on Christian Haven so sharing my views is not new.
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