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    Cool You Only Belong To Christ IF

    ONLY CHRISTIANS IF? ONLY LOVED IF? JESUS IS YOUR MESSIAH IF?

    Heb 3:5-6
    5 And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward,
    6 but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end.
    Eph 4:21
    21 IF indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
    John 6:29
    29 Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent."
    Matt 11:27
    27 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
    1 Pet 4:17-18
    17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and IF it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
    18 Now "IF the righteous one is scarcely saved, where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?"
    Heb 3:14
    14 For we have become partakers of Christ IF we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end,
    I Jn 1:8-10
    8 IF we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    9 IF we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    10 IF we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
    2 Cor 10:3-5
    3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.
    4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
    5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
    I Jn 2:4-5
    4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
    John 15:10
    10 "IF you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
    John 15:14
    14 "You are My friends IF you do whatever I command you.
    I Jn 2:3
    3 Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments.
    Matt 6:14-15
    14 "For IF you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
    15 "But IF you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
    I Jn 5:3-4
    3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
    4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world-- our faith.
    Rev 22:18-19
    18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: IF anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
    19 and IF anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    Matt 28:20
    20 "teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.
    (NKJ)Col 1:23
    23 IF indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.
    (NKJ)
    xxx The IF's in the Word of God are conditions of love. There is no such thing as unconditional love. God says He will(not is) but will be a Father to us. If has always been one of the biggest conditions for love in God. God will love you IF. Jesus is your Messiah IF



    2 Cor 6:14-18
    14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
    15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?
    16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people."
    17 Therefore "Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you."
    18 "I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty."
    (NKJ)


    2 Pet 1:5-10
    5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge,
    6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness,
    7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love.
    8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.
    10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble;
    (NKJ)


    Gal 3:29
    29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
    (NKJ)

    Gal 5:24-25
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
    (NKJ)

    John 15:7
    7 "If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.
    (NKJ)


    John 14:15
    15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
    (NKJ)

    John 15:10
    10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
    (NKJ)


    Heb 8:6-7
    6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
    7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
    (NKJ)


    John 6:65
    65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."
    (NKJ)

    Luke 13:3
    3 "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.
    (NKJ)

    Luke 13:5
    5 "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."
    (NKJ)

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    You should find all the IF's before you make a claim.

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    Do you realize that every promise comes with an IF

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    I Jn 2:3
    3 Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I Jn 2:3
    3 Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments.
    The ones we choose to keep...and the way we choose to interpret their being kept...

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    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    The ones we choose to keep...and the way we choose to interpret their being kept...
    I said
    lolol Do you really think you have a right to choose which ones to keep??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    lolol Do you really think you have a right to choose which ones to keep??????
    I hear christians say it all the time...

    The law was changed right? Gay christians and others claim the whole OT was abolished...

    “One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike”

    I hear them insist Christ is their rest everyday...any day they chose they are convinced...

    Like it’s their right...

    ...the law was changed dontcha know...they claim

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    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    I hear christians say it all the time...

    The law was changed right? Gay christians and others claim the whole OT was abolished...

    “One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike”

    I hear them insist Christ is their rest everyday...any day they chose they are convinced...

    Like it’s their right...

    ...the law was changed dontcha know...they claim
    I said
    The law was changed but even the new testament condemns Gay. Just because they got one thing right doesn't mean they have salvation.

    GAYS

    1 Cor 5:9-13
    9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
    10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
    11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner-- not even to eat with such a person.
    12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?
    13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore "put away from yourselves the evil person."
    James 3:14
    14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. 1 Cor 6:9-10
    9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
    10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
    2 Pet 2:6-10
    6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
    7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked
    8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)--
    9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment,
    10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries,
    Rom 1:20-28
    20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
    21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
    22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
    23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man-- and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
    24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,
    25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
    26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
    27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
    Rom 1:32
    32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
    Jude 1:19
    19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
    2 Tim 3:2-5
    2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
    4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
    5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
    1 Cor 7:2
    2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.
    Rev 2:21-22
    21 "And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent.
    22 "Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.
    1 Cor 6:18
    18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
    Jude 1:7
    7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
    I Jn 1:7-10
    7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
    8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
    (NKJ)

    This is a revelation I received from the Holy Spirit. Like it or not this is what the Word Of God says. The Word condemns Gays.


    2 Pet 2:12-22
    12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption,
    13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you,
    14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, beguiling unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children.
    15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
    16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man's voice restrained the madness of the prophet.
    17 These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
    18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error.
    19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.
    20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning.
    21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.
    22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
    (NKJ)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    lolol Do you really think you have a right to choose which ones to keep??????
    Squeaky are you keeping the seventh day Sabbath now?
    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

    I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by keypurr View Post
    Squeaky are you keeping the seventh day Sabbath now?
    I said
    The question was which commandments to keep. And which Sabbath day to keep is different than which commandment. One is still obeying the commandment no matter which day it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    The question was which commandments to keep. And which Sabbath day to keep is different than which commandment. One is still obeying the commandment no matter which day it is.
    Nope.

    Six days work...seventh rest...because He did and commanded we do

    First full day in the New Covenant Age was a seventh day Sabbath...just like in Edenic Covenant...first day in each covenant age man rested the seventh day of the week...

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    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    Nope.

    Six days work...seventh rest...because He did and commanded we do

    First full day in the New Covenant Age was a Sabbath...just like in Edenic Covenant...first day in each covenant age man rested...
    I said
    Its ok to keep the Sabbath and its ok not to keep the Sabbath.

    [Rom 14:4-6
    4 Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
    5 One person esteems [one] day above another; another esteems every day [alike]. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
    6 He who observes the day, observes [it] to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe [it]. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    Its ok to keep the Sabbath and its ok not to keep the Sabbath.

    [Rom 14:4-6
    4 Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
    5 One person esteems [one] day above another; another esteems every day [alike]. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
    6 He who observes the day, observes [it] to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe [it]. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
    “I said
    lolol Do you really think you have a right to choose which ones to keep??????”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    The question was which commandments to keep. And which Sabbath day to keep is different than which commandment. One is still obeying the commandment no matter which day it is.
    I strongly disagree with you on that but most of the time I do agree, I was just wondering if you changed your mind my friend.
    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

    I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by keypurr View Post
    I strongly disagree with you on that but most of the time I do agree, I was just wondering if you changed your mind my friend.
    I said
    Keep the Sabbath day holy is not in the new testament. But this is in the new testament.

    [Rom 14:5-6
    5 One person esteems [one] day above another; another esteems every day [alike]. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
    6 He who observes the day, observes [it] to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe [it]. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.

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