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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Sorry but you don't get to simply write off evidence as fake.

    Prove to me this is a faked or CGI generated image.
    Prove it's real. That's the issue. It is common knowledge that no actual image of earth from far enough up in space to see the ball exists and suddenly you found one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Dave now you are just grasping at straws. Regardless of the less than precise measurements... the helicopter disappears from bottom to top as it lowers beneath the line of sight. This could not be possible without the curvature of the earth.
    A test that is off by 14 feet is not "less than precise" it's a complete miscalculation that people like Hawking are not supposed to make, which is why they used him, or his voice. The error is so bad that we can only assume a deliberate attempt to deceive since incompetence could not be Hawkings.

    Perspective and atmospheric conditions determine what we see and cannot see in the distance over water. A curved earth would be confirmed by ships, buildings, trees (even a helicopter) slanted away from viewer. Everything, as far away as we can view them with telescope and camera are still perpendicular to a straight horizon and flat plane.

    Even when you see pictures of cityscapes with a bottom hidden by water, once you measure and locate the ground level it is always up and not way below eye level which confirms a plane and negates a downward curve away from viewer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    The clouds don't just end. Clouds are of varying density and thickness. Some parts of clouds are more opaque than others.

    You admittedly know nothing about photography, computer graphics, and pretty much anything else... yet you are sure this image is faked??

    At what cost will you hold on to this flat earth theory?? Is it really worth your entire reputation as an honest and reasonable person?

    Dave... you now rank as one of the most ignorant people to ever post on this forum. Congratulations.
    I probably have more knowledge collectively on all three cosmologies and the philosophies and theologies that came with them than any other person here.

    Not to mention that this thread has generated more posts and information from all sides on the subject of cosmology than one could have imagined at the start.

    Even if one thinks flat earth to be misinformation or the absolutely wrong model of our universe it is still historical and an accepted theory by many today. That we never went to the moon is a no brainer in my opinion for reasons that have nothing to do with flat earth.

    I never said I no nothing about computer graphics since I was a professional graphic artist. The clouds in question are the ones along the edge that follow the curved, and too clearly defined, land area as it meets the ocean on the left side of the continent.

    But the main objection with any new picture of earth from space is that it is always different in obvious ways from all the others, as all of them differ from one another.

    Earth from space

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    I think you're doing a great job Dave !!! Much better than I ever could. Their frustration is showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    The reason, as stated many times, is the perspective of how we see causes a horizon that limits how far we can see into the distance. The closer to the ground we are the less we see into the distance and the higher we are the further we see into the distance.
    ...
    This is nonsense, and you know it. You throw in a pseudo-scientific term "perspective", which doesn't mean what you pretend it means, in order to make your lie look based on some real theory.

    By the way- from the other side of the bay, when on the ground- I can see the mountain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    Watch the video again. When they see the helicopter appear it's six miles away and 24 feet above the ground. But the telescope is about three feet above the ground and at six miles the helicopter would be visible at 10 feet above the ground not 24 feet. I provided the link to prove my case.


    P.S. They were not using nautical miles in the test.

    Attachment 26335
    But you still aren't factoring in the narrator. Watch what happens if I include his photograph:



    See now?

    Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    This is nonsense, and you know it. You throw in a pseudo-scientific term "perspective", which doesn't mean what you pretend it means, in order to make your lie look based on some real theory.

    By the way- from the other side of the bay, when on the ground- I can see the mountain.
    Everything you can see in the distance is perpendicular, the horizon comes up to your eye level as it does on a plane.

    Nothing in the distance is slanted away from you or sinks down below your eye level as it would on a curved earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuu View Post
    But you still aren't factoring in the narrator. Watch what happens if I include his photograph:

    See now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
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    Go back and look closely and you should be able to see the narrator effect clearly.

    Sheesh.

    Stuart

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    Here's the narrator effect in action:



    Mr. O'Neal, the narrator in this case, is pictured in front of a horizon that is clearly photoshopped, as demonstrated by the difference between the appearance of he horizon in the photo and the words coming out of his mouth.

    Clear as day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    [S]TP... please tell me you are not a flat earther.
    Disconcerting, isn't it?

    @SaulToPaul -- Flat earth proven false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuu View Post
    Go back and look closely and you should be able to see the narrator effect clearly.

    Sheesh.

    Stuart
    This does not change the gross error in the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
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    Nothing in the distance is slanted away from you or sinks down below your eye level as it would on a curved earth.

    --Dave
    Edit: regarding slant- at a distance of 110 km, the slant would be 1 degree away from you. Not exactly noticeable.

    Regarding things sinking below eye level:


    You have never watched a sunrise or sunset?

    Dave- you are heavily invested in this nonsense idea, and can't admit you are wrong. You are lying to yourself. over and over again.


    I'll come back once in a while and remind you of that

    have a nice day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    This does not change the gross error in the video.
    It makes all the difference in the world.

    I can't believe you are just ignoring the well-characterised narrator effect. This calls into question everything you have posted in this thread.

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