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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I'm done talking about FE here anyway.
    You gonna post that video first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Too cloudy here. Waste of time, IMO.
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
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    Okay I have my 1st 3 pics. Just one more to go.

    Anyone else besides Clete and I taking pics?? Come on folks we need other points on the map covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Okay I have my 1st 3 pics. Just one more to go.

    Anyone else besides Clete and I taking pics?? Come on folks we need other points on the map covered.
    Maybe a couple of folks drove out to the country to get really good pics, and we have to wait till they get home and download the pics.

    (Does that keep the hope alive a little longer? )

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    You gonna post that video first?
    If two globers agree to watch the whole 25 minutes, seeing it and hearing; paying attention etc. I can post it whenever or save it for the weekend. @Judge Rightly ? @Knight ? @Clete ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    Yeah! I was thinking that from the moment I snapped the 01:00 UCT photo last night. Although people should be careful about how long they have the Sun shining into their camera.


    What do you think about starting an hour earlier and only continuing through to 03:00 UCT if we have someone in the Pacific time zone. Going two hours past Sun set only makes sense if there's someone taking pictures with a sky they can see.

    Also, we should definitely do this again this fall on the next equinox. If we do, everyone, and I mean every single person, who participates will be taking pictures that are both centered on the Sun and pointing at 270 West, no matter how far North or South they happen to live. That will be a cool experiment and absolute iron clad, first person, proof that the Earth cannot possibly be flat nor the Sun nearby.

    And, yes, I live in the Houston area.

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    Okay so here are today's 4 images - please click on them to enlarge them. The images are taken at 6PM, 7PM, 8PM and 9PM mountain time. This time I have centered the sun horizontally in each picture therefore I am no longer pointing due west. I admit these are not great. I'm getting better at this but it takes some practice. Even still there are some things we can learn from these images.

    Here is the first image at 12amUTC or 6PM mountain time. This was before I had calibrated the sun within the app (it wasn't off by much but calibrating with the gyroscope feature makes it far more accurate). There are instructions on how to do that here. Note in this image the sun isn't actually in the shot. It's still too high in the sky with my camera pointed level at the horizon line.
    18.jpg

    My next image at 1amUTC or 7PM mountain time the sun comes into the picture and I have calibrated the app to accurately sync with the position of the sun. The sun is still well above the horizon line. This image is also bad because my fingers were partially in the frame which I couldn't see because the sun was very bright. This was my worst effort to date.
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    My next image is at 2amUTC or 8PM mountain time and the sun has just set which you can see in the image. In fact the sun is a tad below the horizon line which is marked by the Spyglass app.
    20.jpg

    And my final image is at 3amUTC or 9PM mountain time. It is almost completely dark and the sun is now well below the horizon line. While the image is a tad blurry due to the darkness the sun is exactly centered in the pic and I had my phone pretty level to the horizon line this time.
    21.jpg

    Just with these pictures alone I think there is some very damning evidence to the Flat Earth theory. But I'm gonna hold off on that for now. I want to see if any other pics come in.
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    Here's my pics for the evening of 5/8/18 from 00:00 - 03:00 UCT (7pm - 10pm local time)...

    1900180508.jpg
    The Sun was blasting me right in the face and I couldn't see my screen hardly at all. As a result, the Sun is slightly off center but is at 282.9 and +12.5 above the horizon.

    2000180508.jpg
    Sun is at 290.1 and +.1 above horizon

    2100180508.jpg
    Sun is at 298.2 and -11.8 below horizon

    2200180508.jpg
    Sun is at aprox. 308 and more than +20 below horizon (well off the bottom of the shot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Being in New Zealand, I can't help, can I?

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    Yes actually you could. Do it along with us and see what ya get! Use the Spyglass app if you can. But now you will have to wait for tomorrow. 12am, 1am, 2am, and 3am UTC is the time to shoot. Have the image landscape like mine with the horizon line centered vertically and the position of the sun (regardless if you can see it) positioned in the center horizontally.
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    @Knight,

    I suspect that you had the app set to use magnetic north rather than true north. Is that correct?

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    Hey Patrick can you give me a link or post an image of a flat earth map that you feel is a good representation of what you believe the earth looks like?? Something like this....

    Flat_earth.png

    But please find me a image that you approve of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    @<a href="http://theologyonline.com/member.php?u=595" target="_blank">Knight</a>,

    I suspect that you had the app set to use magnetic north rather than true north. Is that correct?
    No. I had that right. I just hadn't calibrated the sun. Did you do that yet? You have to turn on "Gyrocompass" to do it. Watch this video...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    No. I had that right. I just hadn't calibrated the sun. Did you do that yet? You have to turn on "Gyrocompass" to do it. Watch this video...

    Take a look at this...

    Spyglass Legend.jpg

    Then look at your photos and look at how far east your phone thinks North is from True North. As we say here in Texas, that just aint right.

    I use this app nearly every day because I have to know which direction the house I'm inspecting faces and most of the neighborhood streets here run in any direction other than straight east/west or north/south. I've found that just telling to to use true north is the best way to get the thing to work right. You do that simply by going into settings and turning off the magnetic north toggle. You'll know you have it right when that tiny little plus sign is directly under North on the compass.

    I notice that is sure has your Sun position nailed perfectly. Maybe both turning off magnetic north AND calibrating the Sun position is necessary to get the best data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    Take a look at this...

    Spyglass Legend.jpg

    Then look at your photos and look at how far east your phone thinks North is from True North. As we say here in Texas, that just aint right.

    I use this app nearly every day because I have to know which direction the house I'm inspecting faces and most of the neighborhood streets here run in any direction other than straight east/west or north/south. I've found that just telling to to use true north is the best way to get the thing to work right. You do that simply by going into settings and turning off the magnetic north toggle. You'll know you have it right when that tiny little plus sign is directly under North on the compass.

    I notice that is sure has your Sun position nailed perfectly. Maybe both turning off magnetic north AND calibrating the Sun position is necessary to get the best data.

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    Hmmm... I don't know. It shows magnetic north as being off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Hmmm... I don't know. It shows magnetic north as being off.
    2018-05-08 22.05.54.jpg
    Mine showed off too. I'll try again tomorrow and hope for clear skies. I do have the one I posted at exactly 7 pm the other day but I'll get two from the same evening.

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