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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Uh... yeah... you can map out perspective. You are mocking that?
    Not without taking into account refraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    Well, I'm still stuck on the right triangle math stuff. Check this out...

    Patrick brought up the size of the Sun. In the context he was bringing it up in, it's completely irrelevant because the angles involved are all calculated from the point in the center of the Sun, regardless of how big it is.

    BUT!

    Let's think about the size of the Sun, shall we?

    Let's draw another right triangle.

    Attachment 26442

    This time, instead of running side b along the surface of the Earth, that side will represent the distance between the Earth and the center of the Sun (i.e. 3000 miles according to FET).

    The average angular diameter of the Sun is 32.15 minutes of arc.

    That's all the information we need to calculate the size of the Sun. We do it by stacking two right triangles like so...

    Attachment 26443

    We already have the number for side b (3000). Angle A is half of the angular diameter.

    32.15 minutes of arc converted to degrees is .53583

    Angle A then equals .53583/2 = .267815

    Using the calculator found HERE we get side a = 28.1 miles

    Double that to get the size of the Sun...

    28.1 x 2 = 56.2

    The Sun, according the the Flat Earth Theory is 56.2 miles across.

    That's just about the same as the distance between Denver and Colorado Springs.

    Also, just to reiterate a point that has been made on this thread a million times before, the constant angular size of the Sun is proof that it is not vanishing at some supposed vanishing point due to perspective. The variation in the angular diameter of the Sun happens over an entire year's worth of time and varies less than 1 full minute of arc (<1/60th of a degree). The entire idea of perspective has to do with the angular diameter of an object getting smaller and smaller with distance. Since the Sun does not do that, the perspective theory is out the window and you'd be stupid to stick with it, which every single solitary Flat Earther will do.

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    That is why this is the single fact that I use the most with regards to the proper model for the earth and sun.

    This single and indisputable FACT proves, by itself, that the sun does NOT circle above a flat earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    Wikipedia knows everything!
    It's a great resource for many simple facts. That article is very well documented with foot-notes to other resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    It's N&S poles you are confused on.

    Which by the way are never mentioned in the bible.
    There is NO SUCH thing as a "south pole" in the flat earth model.
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    FEs sometimes ask why we don't all fly off the surface of a rapidly rotating globe, as if the reason we don't fly off is because we're really on the surface of a fixed plate...the reason we don't fly off is because what we're standing on is not moving at all.

    Okay, so everyone can see stars and planets rotating overhead (given time-lapse film or seasonal observations). No one argues that.

    Which means either all of those stars are moving, or the plate we're on is moving. Or maybe both. But SOMETHING moves all the time.

    What's moving, FEs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    FEs sometimes ask why we don't all fly off the surface of a rapidly rotating globe, as if the reason we don't fly off is because we're really on the surface of a fixed plate...the reason we don't fly off is because what we're standing on is not moving at all.

    Okay, so everyone can see stars and planets rotating overhead (given time-lapse film or seasonal observations). No one argues that.

    Which means either all of those stars are moving, or the plate we're on is moving. Or maybe both. But SOMETHING moves all the time.

    What's moving, FEs?
    Their explanation of their model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    That is why this is the single fact that I use the most with regards to the proper model for the earth and sun.

    This single and indisputable FACT proves, by itself, that the sun does NOT circle above a flat earth.
    Precisely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    It's a great resource for many simple facts. That article is very well documented with foot-notes to other resources.
    I agree. I hear people criticize wikipedia all the time as though its just 85% crap but I've never found anything there that was anything other than informative and basically dead on.

    That's not to say that there isn't plenty of stuff that's probably bad but that's true of pretty much anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    It's N&S poles you are confused on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    I agree. I hear people criticize wikipedia all the time as though its just 85% crap but I've never found anything there that was anything other than informative and basically dead on.

    That's not to say that there isn't plenty of stuff that's probably bad but that's true of pretty much anything.
    I can think of one example where the information presented is done so deceptively, even though the information itself is accurate.

    (Think Damadian...)

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    Well by all means help me out. Please explain it to me.
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