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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Apparently you are a day ahead of me and not in day. It is not day to you. Should we be having this discussion then? Do you know?

    It is the 28th of the 11th month. January is not the time to be making an observation for Rosh Chodesh. Remember, the 11th month has no name. Does (did) it to or for Hillel? I imagine that it does. But the month names you refer to predate Hillel.

    You said the first slither. Of the new crescent moon. I do not know why you have done this.

    The new moon is observed by sighting the first sliver of light on the moon. This is after the astronomical new moon, which creates confusion for those who observe the new moon on their Roman American and astronomical calendars.

    Rosh Chodesh means the Head of the Month. It is not the same thing as the new moon.

    The word may be slither. It may be the new crescent moon. I do not know your evidence or why you use these terms. I do not refer to a new crescent moon. This is poetry. The word is crescent but it was apparently about a new moon.

    Shalom.

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    The sighting of the first sliver of light on the moon was seen in Jerusalem on the evening of the 18th of January, this was Rosh Chodesh and began the 11th month! Thousands of people saw it and you can not deny this fact. Therefore today is the 27th not the 28th. You only believe it is the 28th because the Hillel calendar you follow uses the 19 year repeating mathematical cycle that only approximates the real new moon sightings. This means it is sometimes a day out such as this month.

    Education is a wonderful thing Jacob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    The sighting of the first sliver of light on the moon was seen in Jerusalem on the evening of the 18th of January, this was Rosh Chodesh and began the 11th month! Thousands of people saw it and you can not deny this fact. Therefore today is the 27th not the 28th. You only believe it is the 28th because the Hillel calendar you follow uses the 19 year repeating mathematical cycle that only approximates the real new moon sightings. This means it is sometimes a day out such as this month.

    Education is a wonderful thing Jacob.
    I do not believe what you are telling me.

    Why do you think that I use Hillel's Calendar? You have said that I do.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I do not believe what you are telling me.

    Why do you think that I use Hillel's Calendar? You have said that I do.
    And you don't believe all these people either:

    http://whenisthenewmoon.com/2018/01/

    http://www.renewedmoon.com/wall-cale...d=2017-2018-11

    http://www.joybysurprise.com/new-moon-sighted-.html

    http://weareisrael.org/hebrew-calend...7-18/new-moon/

    http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y2017M11

    https://guidetothebible.files.wordpr...r5988_2018.pdf

    You don't even know how the calendar you do follow even works or who Hillel was. Call yourself a Jew.

    18-19=1
    19-20=2
    20-21=3
    21-22=4
    22-23=5
    23-24=6
    24-25=7
    25-26=8
    26-27=9
    27-28=10
    28-29=11
    29-30=12
    30-31=13
    31-1=14
    1-2=15
    2-3=16
    3-4=17
    4-5=18
    5-6=19
    6-7=20
    7-8=21
    8-9=22
    9-10=23
    10-11=24
    11-12=25
    12-13=26
    13-14=27

    Today is the 27th by God's Calendar not the 28th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    And you don't believe all these people either:

    http://whenisthenewmoon.com/2018/01/

    http://www.renewedmoon.com/wall-cale...d=2017-2018-11

    http://www.joybysurprise.com/new-moon-sighted-.html

    http://weareisrael.org/hebrew-calend...7-18/new-moon/

    http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y2017M11

    https://guidetothebible.files.wordpr...r5988_2018.pdf

    You don't even know how the calendar you do follow even works or who Hillel was. Call yourself a Jew.

    18-19=1
    19-20=2
    20-21=3
    21-22=4
    22-23=5
    23-24=6
    24-25=7
    25-26=8
    26-27=9
    27-28=10
    28-29=11
    29-30=12
    30-31=13
    31-1=14
    1-2=15
    2-3=16
    3-4=17
    4-5=18
    5-6=19
    6-7=20
    7-8=21
    8-9=22
    9-10=23
    10-11=24
    11-12=25
    12-13=26
    13-14=27

    Today is the 27th by God's Calendar not the 28th.
    You laugh.

    I don't know when your day changed in what you were saying.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    You laugh.

    I don't know when your day changed in what you were saying.
    Playing dumb is the only way you can ignore the truth.

    Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    Playing dumb is the only way you can ignore the truth.

    Peace.
    I am not playing dumb. You are playing mean.

    If you do not recognize the truth then putting someone down with something you believe to be a lie is not a good strategy.

    I grew up studying the Bible. Then I began to observe the Torah. Chanukah and Purim are not observed on the calendar from Torah.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I am not playing dumb. You are playing mean.

    If you do not recognize the truth then putting someone down with something you believe to be a lie is not a good strategy.

    I grew up studying the Bible. Then I began to observe the Torah. Chanukah and Purim are not observed on the calendar from Torah.
    Then you are just dumb.

    Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    Then you are just dumb.

    Peace
    No. It is rude for you to say this to me or anyone.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    The seat of conciseness is the Spirit. It is what separates us from the animals. Like dogs for example.
    Animals have their own spirit, it provides intellect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    No. It is rude for you to say this to me or anyone.
    If you are not dumb or playing dumb then you are disingenuous because everyone can see the sighting of the first sliver of light on the moon was seen in Jerusalem on the evening of the 18th of January:

    http://whenisthenewmoon.com/2018/01/

    http://www.renewedmoon.com/wall-cale...d=2017-2018-11

    http://www.joybysurprise.com/new-moon-sighted-.html

    http://weareisrael.org/hebrew-calend...7-18/new-moon/

    http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y2017M11

    https://guidetothebible.files.wordpr...r5988_2018.pdf

    This was Rosh Chodesh and began the 11th month! Thousands of people saw it and you can not deny this fact. Therefore today is the 27th not the 28th. You only believe it is the 28th because the Hillel calendar you follow uses the 19 year repeating mathematical cycle that only approximates the real new moon sightings: https://www.hebcal.com/converter/

    Everyone can see this except you. Just ignoring all this makes you ignorant and therefore dumb but if you have seen this but are choosing to still ignore it that makes you disingenuous and a liar.

    You have to be either dumb or a liar there is no other explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    No. It is rude for you to say this to me or anyone.
    I don't understand what you are saying. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Animals have their own spirit, it provides intellect.

    Having a soul has nothing to do with intelligence. Intelligence is a result of brain function and is determined largely by genetics but intelligence has nothing to do with spirituality or soul.

    There is no evidence in the Bible that animals have a spiritual nature or that they possess a soul.

    Man has dominion over all animals. We are the pinnacle of God's creation and are made up of body, soul and spirit. As far as we know animals were never given a spirit or a soul:

    Genesis 2:7
    Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

    This never happened to any animal but our spirit returns to God after death while the body returns to the Earth to await its resurrection:

    Ecclesiastes 12:7
    and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I don't understand what you are saying. Why?
    "I do not know what you are saying."

    Yep that stock answer wears thin after while and you realise the duplicity and or disingenuous nonsense that he is coming out with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    As far as we know animals were never given a spirit or a soul:
    "For what happens to the sons of men also happens to animals, one thing befalls them, as one dies so dies the other. Surely, they all have one breath, man has no advantage over animals for all is vanity. All go to one place, all are from the dust and all return to dust. Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?" (Ecclesiastes 12:19-21)

    You are welcome to believe scripture or you can stick with your own ideas.

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    What is the purpose of the human spirit?

    "For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God." (1 Corinthians 2:11)

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