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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
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    Why strive to believe in something that you have no evidence for?


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    Flat earthers have lots of questions about how airplanes can work on a spinning spherical earth, that they seem to think cannot be answered. Well of course these questions are based on misconceptions, and are easy to answer, when you understand some simple scientific principles, and the physical forces involved. Here are the common flat earth airplane questions addressed in this video.

    1. Why does it take the same time to fly east as it does west if the earth is spinning at 1000 mph?

    2. How can a plane land going north or south, if the earth is spinning sideways at 1000 mph?

    3. Why doesn’t a plane have to dip it’s nose to follow the curve of the earth?

    4. Why did a plane flying from Taiwan to Los Angeles make an emergency landing in Alaska?

    5. Why do all intercontinental flights in the southern hemisphere make “fueling stops” in the northern hemisphere?

    6. How can gyroscopic artificial horizons work if the plane is curving around the earth? Why don’t they roll backwards?

    Here is the video in which these questions are answered:

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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    Why strive to believe in something that you have no evidence for?


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    Cosmology is not science intentionally. It's all a large bunch of theories. No proof of a flying spinning ball shape earth has EVER been proven let alone observed. No evidence. What, pray tell is your evidence? Videos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Cosmology is not science intentionally. It's all a large bunch of theories. No proof of a flying spinning ball shape earth has EVER been proven let alone observed. No evidence. What, pray tell is your evidence?
    According to YOUR model, the sun would be 1.72 million miles away from an observer when the sun is only 1 degree above the horizon (based on a 3000 mile height), yet it is overhead for people in other locations on the earth at the same time, and wouldn't even be visible (based on a 62 mile diameter) at that distance, because for the human eye to even see a speck at that distance, an object would have to be 320.436 miles wide.

    The math is evidence against your model.

    Videos?
    This coming from someone who posts videos left and right to "prove" his position...

    How ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Cosmology is not science intentionally. It's all a large bunch of theories. No proof of a flying spinning ball shape earth has EVER been proven let alone observed. No evidence. What, pray tell is your evidence? Videos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
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    It is impossible, using scripture alone, to come to the conclusion that we are on a ball, spinning wildly, among billions of other universes.

    It is possible, however, taking scripture literally, to come to a FE conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    It is impossible, using scripture alone, to come to the conclusion that we are on a ball, spinning wildly, among billions of other universes.
    Who believes that?

    It is impossible to determine the exact size, shape and layout of the creation solely from scripture alone period.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    It is possible, however, taking scripture literally, to come to a FE conclusion.
    Nope... that takes a preconceived notion and blinders to the visible nature of the creation.

    P.S. The globe earth is NOT "spinning wildly". You are lying about your opponents position.
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    Have ya ever really liked a musician or actor only to find out they are a wacky left wing liberal? It's like a punch in the gut. And once you learn this about them you can't ever take them seriously again on any topic or in any performance. Now that I'm older I never put my faith in people because they will only let you down.

    But I must admit this whole Flat Earth thing caught me off guard.

    DFT Dave, STP, and Patrick have all punched me in the gut. I never thought in a million years that guys I liked and looked up to theologically could believe such utter craziness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    It is impossible, using scripture alone, to come to the conclusion that we are on a ball, spinning wildly, among billions of other universes.

    It is possible, however, taking scripture literally, to come to a FE conclusion.
    It's possible to use scripture to say that God never changes. But that doesn't mean it's correct.

    People can interpret the Bible however they want (take the Urantia group for example). That doesn't mean their interpretation is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    It is impossible, using scripture alone, to come to the conclusion that we are on a ball, spinning wildly, among billions of other universes.
    By the way, no, it's not impossible, using scripture alone, to come to the conclusion that we are on a ball, spinning once per 24-hour period, revolving around a star once per 365 24-hour periods. The "billions of other universes" bit? That's just hogwash.

    Please stop lumping Creationist "globers" in with atheists. It's rude.

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    Why are you guys super defensive? Pride?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Why are you guys super defensive? Pride?
    Says one of the persons who says he wants to bring out the facts about reality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Have ya ever really liked a musician or actor only to find out they are a wacky left wing liberal? It's like a punch in the gut. And once you learn this about them you can't ever take them seriously again on any topic or in any performance. Now that I'm older I never put my faith in people because they will only let you down.

    But I must admit this whole Flat Earth thing caught me off guard.

    DFT Dave, STP, and Patrick have all punched me in the gut. I never thought in a million years that guys I liked and looked up to theologically could believe such utter craziness.

    Lesson learned (again).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Says one of the persons who says he wants to bring out the facts about reality...
    If you can provide irrefutable proof, I will submit and believe. I don't care either way. I see much more proof pointing to a flat plane. No need to get hostile.
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