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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Having been banned I have kind of lost track of this thread.

    If the law has not been abolished we are all without hope and are still in our sins. If the law has not been abolished there is no Gospel and all that we have to looked forward to is judgment and condemnation. In the judgment if we are to be saved God must see us as perfect and complete "In Christ". If the law is still in force God cannot see us in Christ, instead he will see us in our sins.

    There is no condemnation to them that are "In Christ" Romans 8:1. There is no condemnation because there is no law. Where there is law there is judgment.
    I think the problem is with your blanket statement about the law being abolished, and what it sounds like you're saying.

    Of course, the law still exists because it's purpose is to show men their GUILT. As long as there are ungodly men, the law remains.

    Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

    1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    The Pharisees had perverted the day of rest making it a burden.

    Jesus restored the day of rest for his people.

    The weekly day of rest foreshadows the millennial day of rest.

    "Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience." (Hebrews 4:11)
    Belief and unbelief, Jamie. Read the whole context in a decent translation.


    Those who believe have entered into that rest. That "day spoken of" is the day of salvation.

    Heb. 4:2-3 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them." (Ephesians 2:10)

    We are not saved by works, we are saved for works.
    We are saved because God loves us. That we are ordained to do good works speaks, primarily, of our preaching the Gospel to the lost...through which even more will be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Work is just for the Jews, not for gentiles.

    That's what Robert has been preaching and so is this site.

    This is the core belief of this site.

    If you don't accept it, you are unbeliever and unsaved.
    Meshak, you need to listen and not talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Meshak, you need to listen and not talk.
    I listen to Jesus so I am good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    I listen to Jesus so I am good.
    About as well as you listen to what we say....as proven by what you just claimed we believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    About as well as you listen to what we say....as proven by what you just claimed we believe.
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    why the denial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Work is just for the Jews, not for gentiles.

    That's what Robert has been preaching and so is this site.

    This is the core belief of this site.

    If you don't accept it, you are unbeliever and unsaved.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
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    why the denial?
    Because, after all this time, you still don't know the difference between working to earn your salvation, and that which the Lord Jesus Christ performs through us. It's those works we are ordained for.



    So when Eph. 2:8 says we are SAVED by grace through faith, but NOT of works....that is referring to not working for salvation...which is what godsuntruth preaches, and BOASTS of.

    Eph. 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    While we give all the glory to the Lord Jesus Christ for the work He performs through us as members of His body.

    Eph. 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Because, after all this time, you still don't know the difference between working to earn your salvation, and that which the Lord Jesus Christ performs through us. It's those works we are ordained for.



    So when Eph. 2:8 says we are SAVED by grace through faith, but NOT of works....that is referring to not working for salvation...which is what godsuntruth preaches, and BOASTS of.

    Eph. 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    While we give all the glory to the Lord Jesus Christ for the work He performs through us as members of His body.

    Eph. 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
    So you don't believe Jesus is not for the Jews?

    BTW, you are the ones who is denying Jesus' word, not me.

    Jesus never said you don't have to keep His commands?

    when are you going to accept Jesus is the Lord?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    So you don't believe Jesus is not for the Jews?
    I don't respond to double negatives.

    BTW, you are the ones who is denying Jesus' word, not me.
    Wrong.

    Jesus never said you don't have to keep His commands?
    Another double negative.

    when are you going to accept Jesus is the Lord?
    I accept Him as Lord and God.

    You're the one who refuses Him...therefore you have no Saviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post

    Jesus never said you don't have to keep His commands?
    Are His commands to Israel to keep different from the commands GOD gave to Israel to keep?

    "The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name." Exodus 15:3

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    I don't respond to double negatives.



    Wrong.



    Another double negative.



    I accept Him as Lord and God.

    You're the one who refuses Him...therefore you have no Saviour.
    You are playing game. so childish. It is so you.

    Is it a lie that Mad believe Jesus's teachings are not for the gentiles only for the Jews?

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    BTW, GD,

    this kind of game you guys have been playing.

    You will not admit that your faith is so fake.

    You have no respect for Jesus' teachings.

    I have never seen Mad's kind of faith anywhere.

    Do you attend church?

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    Never mind GD.

    I am not interested in talking to you.

    You can claim victory.

    good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    You are playing game. so childish. It is so you.
    I'm not playing any games, Meshak. I can't understand the question if you use a double negative. Either make a clear sentence or don't ask one at all. If you don't know what a double negative is, then google it.

    Is it a lie that Mad believe Jesus's teachings are not for the gentiles only for the Jews?
    It's a lie to say Jesus' teachings are ignored by Mid Acts people.

    They know He came to the lost sheep of Israel, and why.

    They understand His message before the cross, and His message after He had risen were not the same. They know that His DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION actually mattered.

    You're the one who doesn't know that.

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