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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Who is this "we" you keep referring to?
    we who claim to be in Him

    What do you mean by "expected to keep"?
    well in Him are we allowed to kill or steal...or any of the other 10 once prohibited before we were no longer under school master...or are we expected to keep the 9 except that 1 we are not supposed to keep because He BECAME that one commandment...that specific period of time


    It seems, though, that you don't know the Sabbath was a "sign" between the Lord and the children of Israel?


    Exodus 31:12-14
    12 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you. 14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
    And the only commandment specifically given to non native foreigners saved with israel from egypt...in fact the other 9 were not...but given just to jews...ok Israel...right? Not a peep about dont kill being given to non jews...sorry non israel

    I guess you dont consider yourself israel...so why do you bother keeping at least 9 of the commandments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    I've read where others make that same claim.

    Jesus called us to work, not rest.

    The purpose of salvation is service, not retirement.
    Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    I've read where others make that same claim.

    Jesus called us to work, not rest.

    The purpose of salvation is service, not retirement.
    Jesus did all the work for His followers so they don't have to.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

    Jesus is talking about all worldly work. Jesus is not telling you you don't have to work.


    Jesus gave His followers spiritual work which is not the same as the world.


    His work is for God's kingdom, not for this world..
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    we who claim to be in Him

    well in Him are we allowed to kill or steal...or any of the other 10 once prohibited before we were no longer under school master...except 1 we are not supposed to keep one because He BECAME that one commandment...that specific period of time
    Has not being "allowed" to kill ever stopped a killer? Has not being allowed to steal ever stopped a thief.

    The law is simply a list of rules.




    And the only commandment specifically given to non native foreigners saved with israel from egypt...in fact the other 9 were not...biven just to jews...ok Israel...right? Not a peep about dont kill being given to non jews...sorry israel
    I have no idea what you are trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Jesus is talking about all worldly work. Jesus is not telling you you don't have to work.

    You're claiming Jesus was promoting welfare...or living off payments from the Army?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    You're claiming Jesus was promoting welfare...or living off payments from the Army?
    Jesus is teaching us not to fight spiritual things with carnal reasoning.

    Jesus does not get involved in people's petty bickering.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes" Romans 10:4.

    If Jesus did not abolish the law we do not have a Gospel, nor do we have salvation. If Jesus did not abolish the law for us, in the judgment we will be condemned. Our only hope is to stand before God "In Christ" and to be found perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10. If we are still under the law there is no hope that will happen.
    if Jesus abolished the law then why did Jesus, James, the 12 and st Paul all follow and obey the law?

    in order to follow the "abolished law" philosophy the first step is to deviate from the example of Christ who followed the law.

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    Robert is not here jaybird.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Resting in the Lord is not being slothful. It's being obedient.

    Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
    No no you said stop working in Him...and that text just means He is doing the work in you...to get you to work...the irony...but you just want to rest...probably think we didnt work in Eden or wont have to work in the new world...Isaiah lying and all about all that coming to worship Sabbath to Sabbath...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    I've read where others make that same claim.

    Jesus called us to work, not rest.

    The purpose of salvation is service, not retirement.
    I read He said He is a vine, door, path, bread, water shephard...nothing about a day of the week

    Give you rest sure...like He gave us the Sabbath day...

    Lord of the Sabbath sure...but why would the Lord of London wish to abolish/destroy London?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
    Duh...who do you think gives us the Sabbath?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Jesus did all the work for His followers so they don't have to.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Jesus is talking about all worldly work. Jesus is not telling you you don't have to work.
    To work or not to work...that is the question.

    And here I thought REST was the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Jesus did all the work for His followers so they don't have to.
    Oh no not you too...ok put off the whole armor of Yah...its over...nothing left to do...dont go preaching and teaching the gospel...

    The new covenant was signed by His blood and sealed by His death...AFTER He taught and demonstrated it with His life...after the testator dies NO CHANGES...resting everyday is exactly that...resting sundays is exactly changing a SEALED covenant...is why the very first day of the new covenant age was kept by Him in the tomb and His followers hurrying to keep the commandment...Paul kept it as Heb 4:9 clearly states it remains for His people to keep...a sabbath keeping...not everyday rest...

    Now saddle up His yoke and work...represent Him propers would ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    Duh...who do you think gives us the Sabbath?

    That's what you think this verse is about?

    Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

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