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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    Ahhr this is where you are going wrong then but to be fair it is not the best footage of the dig, although to anyone who knows the Garden Tomb site well it is clear that it is indeed the Garden Tomb site....
    Do you know the site well? Have you visited there?

    Take a look at these quotes:

    The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on
    request:
    The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr
    Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artefacts
    within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem. Though Mr
    Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions
    (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association
    observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing
    was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical
    artefacts or temple treasures.
    Archaeologist Joe Zias, Curator of Anthropology/Archaeology at the Israel Antiquities
    Authority has stated that,
    Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed
    excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in
    archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His
    claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National
    Enquirer, Sun etc. It's amazing that anyone would believe them. Furthermore, he has
    been thoroughly discredited by various Christian organisations such as Creation
    Research in Calif. For the latest on his "discoveries" I suggest going into the WWW
    (use Vista) someone called Tentmaker decided to do an expose of his various claims.
    Here you will find the truth, which is more amazing that his (RW) fictions.20

    Both the people who own the Garden Tomb and the IAA say Ron Wyatt is lying. There is no evidence at all for what he claims- besides his claim. So why do you believe him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beameup View Post
    Gibberish.
    Obviously you only know what your guru Derek Walker has told you.
    You obviously haven't seen a map or drawing of the Jebusite "City of David".

    PS: The Garden Tomb has recently been dated to the 1st Temple period by Israeli Antiquities.

    PPS: The Pool of Siloam wasn't discovered until 2004 (Israeli archeology)
    By ignoring everything I am saying and not engaging in the debate shows you are not interested in finding the truth. You are no more than a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    Yeah, he's a straight up and down liar.
    That's not the question. This video below shows absolute proof Ron Wyatt excavated in the Garden Tomb site, therefore the IAA are lying when they say he did not have permission to dig there (or anywhere) because not only did he dig there but the Garden Tomb Association says he did have permission but just that he didn't find anything:

    Ron Wyatt Digging in the Garden Tomb Site:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4iU54gFTI

    Garden Tomb Association Statement:
    "The Cave which had been the subject of excavations by Mr. Ron Wyatt from the USA had to be filled in, done for aesthetic reasons and safety. The area had become an eyesore. Although Ron Wyatt died in 1999, he had claimed to have discovered the long-missing «Ark of the Covenant» in 1982 in the vicinity of the Skull Face at Golgotha. Though none of his claims could be confirmed before his death, his activities were being continued enthusiastically by his followers, many faithful Christians, to the detriment of the witness of the Garden.”

    Israeli Antiquities Authority statement:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oJj6S5wByM

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Do you know the site well? Have you visited there?
    I just said I did, aren't you reading anything i'm telling you or don't you believe me? 280,000 people visit every year. it's not unusual

    Take a look at these quotes:

    The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on
    request:
    The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr
    Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artefacts
    within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem. Though Mr
    Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions
    (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association
    observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing
    was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical
    artefacts or temple treasures.
    Archaeologist Joe Zias, Curator of Anthropology/Archaeology at the Israel Antiquities
    Authority has stated that,
    Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed
    excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in
    archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His
    claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National
    Enquirer, Sun etc. It's amazing that anyone would believe them. Furthermore, he has
    been thoroughly discredited by various Christian organisations such as Creation
    Research in Calif. For the latest on his "discoveries" I suggest going into the WWW
    (use Vista) someone called Tentmaker decided to do an expose of his various claims.
    Here you will find the truth, which is more amazing that his (RW) fictions.20
    And the IAA are contradicting the GTA by saying Ron Wyatt never had any permissions:

    Israeli Antiquities Authority statement:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oJj6S5wByM


    Both the people who own the Garden Tomb and the IAA say Ron Wyatt is lying. There is no evidence at all for what he claims- besides his claim. So why do you believe him?
    Seeing as you now have the full facts, assuming you actually took the time to watch the video, either the IAA are lying or the GTA are, so which one do you beleive??

    And as if that's not enough here is that other video I mention of Nell Wyatt filming them digging at the site and walking around the Garden Tomb area and showing the actual skull hill in the same take, from 3mins to 18 mins:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4iU54gFTI

    Or perhaps you are just trolling and will ignore all this evidence and make another obtuse comment?

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    You never responded. Did you watch the video evidence?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=1t4iU54gFTI

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Do you know the site well? Have you visited there?

    Take a look at these quotes:

    The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on
    request:
    The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr
    Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artefacts
    within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem. Though Mr
    Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions
    (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association
    observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing
    was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical
    artefacts or temple treasures.
    Archaeologist Joe Zias, Curator of Anthropology/Archaeology at the Israel Antiquities
    Authority has stated that,
    Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed
    excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in
    archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His
    claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National
    Enquirer, Sun etc. It's amazing that anyone would believe them. Furthermore, he has
    been thoroughly discredited by various Christian organisations such as Creation
    Research in Calif. For the latest on his "discoveries" I suggest going into the WWW
    (use Vista) someone called Tentmaker decided to do an expose of his various claims.
    Here you will find the truth, which is more amazing that his (RW) fictions.20

    Both the people who own the Garden Tomb and the IAA say Ron Wyatt is lying. There is no evidence at all for what he claims- besides his claim. So why do you believe him?
    You never responded. Did you watch the video evidence?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=1t4iU54gFTI

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    Yeah, he's a straight up and down liar.
    You never responded. Did you watch the video evidence?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=1t4iU54gFTI

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    Quote Originally Posted by beameup View Post
    Gibberish.
    Obviously you only know what your guru Derek Walker has told you.
    You obviously haven't seen a map or drawing of the Jebusite "City of David".

    PS: The Garden Tomb has recently been dated to the 1st Temple period by Israeli Antiquities.

    PPS: The Pool of Siloam wasn't discovered until 2004 (Israeli archeology)
    You never responded. Did you watch the video evidence?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=1t4iU54gFTI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    The ark part, I am skeptical.



    Many people have asked for proof of Ron's finding the ark. Ron says we should wait until the Lord wants it revealed. He had taken hundreds of photos using 35mm, Polaroid, and video but they are were blurred because God did not want Ron to be showing this evidence at that time. Ron knew then that he was to wait until the Lord's time. Subsequently he was able to get clear photos of the ark, but he did not make them public.






    The blurred photos are terrible and could be anything.

    He said he has clear photos, but has not shown them.
    Something fishy here.
    You never responded. Did you watch the video evidence?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=1t4iU54gFTI

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    He's a regular Indiana Jones !!
    You never responded. Did you watch the video evidence?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=1t4iU54gFTI

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    ...either the IAA are lying or the GTA are, so which one do you beleive??...
    This is a false binary choice. There is a third possibility: That Wyatt did in fact dig there- but he did so without a permit. i.e. illegally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    This is a false binary choice. There is a third possibility: That Wyatt did in fact dig there- but he did so without a permit. i.e. illegally.
    You obviously have no understanding of the Garden tomb area. You couldn't so much as dig some weeds up before you would be stopped. Ron and many others are in the video digging there for months at a time over many years. In this video his wife and many others are at the site around 2011 opening up the excavations even more:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvxGX6B5FUY

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    You never responded. Did you watch the video evidence?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=1t4iU54gFTI
    If Ron Wyatt really did find the Ark of the Covenant, then produce it. Until then, it's just no better than hearsay fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchmanOnTheWall View Post
    You obviously have no understanding of the Garden tomb area. You couldn't so much as dig some weeds up before you would be stopped. Ron and many others are in the video digging there for months at a time over many years. In this video his wife and many others are at the site around 2011 opening up the excavations even more:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvxGX6B5FUY
    So you are happier with the considerably theory. The IAA is lying. The underdog is right. It goes along with the Shroud quite nicely. And you know better than the experts regarding calendars as well.

    I am sure you feel quite good about yourself. And I am sure that there is nothing I could possibly say or show that would change your mind about anything.

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