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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Jesus is the eternal Son of God. The first born of every creature, Colossians 1:15.
    Jesus is the Christ and his gospel is the same as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Jesus is the Christ and his gospel is the same as always.
    Yep, Jesus saves and he saves to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    WHAT IS THE GOSPEL?..............
    And not one mention of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, which defines the foundation of gospel of Christ-the dbr.


    Quite telling, as Pate continues his sloppy treatment of, cavalier attitude towards, the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The whole Bible is about Jesus Christ and his Gospel.
    There is more than one gospel in the Bible. The word of truth, the gospel of OUR salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) was a mystery until Paul received it by revelation of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV, Galatians 1:11-12 KJV).
    2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heir View Post
    There is more than one gospel in the Bible. The word of truth, the gospel of OUR salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) was a mystery until Paul received it by revelation of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV, Galatians 1:11-12 KJV).

    The word "Gospel" means good news. The good news is that Jesus in our name and on our behalf has offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience according to his Holy Law, and then atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

    It is because of the doing and the dying of Jesus that we can now stand before God's Holy Court as Justified. That is the good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The word "Gospel" means good news. The good news is that Jesus in our name and on our behalf has offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience according to his Holy Law, and then atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

    It is because of the doing and the dying of Jesus that we can now stand before God's Holy Court as Justified. That is the good news.
    Did Judas preach the good news, gospel, detailed in 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV? Did Judas preach that "Jesus in our name and on our behalf has offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience according to his Holy Law, and then atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, and that it is because of the doing and the dying of Jesus that we can now stand before God's Holy Court as Justified?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    And not one mention of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, which defines the foundation of gospel of Christ-the dbr.


    Quite telling, as Pate continues his sloppy treatment of, cavalier attitude towards, the book.
    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 does not really tell us what the Gospel is.

    The Gospel is that work that Jesus did in our name and on our behalf that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Did Judas preach the good news, gospel, detailed in 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV?
    There is no detail of the Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

    Judas died before the Gospel was made known to the disciples on the day of Pentecost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 does not really tell us what the Gospel is.

    The Gospel is that work that Jesus did in our name and on our behalf that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
    Yes, it does, Pate. You lied. And quite irrelevant, as you sloppily handle the book. Any alleged "good news," gospel, that does not have, as its foundation, as laid out in 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, ...

    The Death
    The Burial
    The Resurrection


    ...............of the Lord Jesus Christ, is not the gospel of Christ, Pate.


    You hurt the cause of Christ, with your cavalier, sloppy handling of the book. Shut up.You did not even reference 1 Cor. !5:1-4 KJV, and you are going to pose as if your a qualified teacher of the scriptures, and "the" gospel?

    Let qualified members of the boc take over. Shut up, and take your seat. I'm tired of your mangling of doctrine, as is most of TOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    There is no detail of the Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

    Judas died before the Gospel was made known to the disciples on the day of Pentecost.
    Non responsive.Evasion.

    I asked: Did Judas preach the good news, gospel, detailed in 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV? Did Judas preach that "Jesus in our name and on our behalf has offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience according to his Holy Law, and then atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, and that it is because of the doing and the dying of Jesus that we can now stand before God's Holy Court as Justified?".

    Yes, or no. These are your words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    There is no detail of the Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

    Judas died before the Gospel was made known to the disciples on the day of Pentecost.
    So, the 12 did not know of "the Gospel" until Pentecost? What was this "the gospel of the kingdom" they were told to preach, by the Master, before Pentecost, then, if they did not know of this "the Gospel" you reference, until after the dbr, at Pentecost?

    Well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    So, the 12 did not know of "the Gospel" until Pentecost? What was this "the gospel of the kingdom" they were told to preach, by the Master, before Pentecost, then, if they did not know of this "the Gospel" you reference, until after the dbr, at Pentecost?

    Well?

    The Gospel of the Kingdom is the good news that the King has arrived.

    The Gospel that justifies the ungodly Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. was not made know to the disciples until Pentecost. The same Gospel was revealed to Paul in Galatians 1:11,12 in much more detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Non responsive.Evasion.

    I asked: Did Judas preach the good news, gospel, detailed in 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV? Did Judas preach that "Jesus in our name and on our behalf has offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience according to his Holy Law, and then atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, and that it is because of the doing and the dying of Jesus that we can now stand before God's Holy Court as Justified?".

    Yes, or no. These are your words.
    Yep, those are my words and are the Gospel. I retract nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The Gospel of the Kingdom is the good news that the King has arrived.

    The Gospel that justifies the ungodly Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. was not made know to the disciples until Pentecost. The same Gospel was revealed to Paul in Galatians 1:11,12 in much more detail.
    Huh? You lied, then-sloppy:
    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Judas died before the Gospel was made known to the disciples on the day of Pentecost.
    =you said that "the Gospel" was not made know to the 12 until Pentecost, after the dbr.


    So, how could the 12, including Judas, be preaching the gospel of the kingdom, before Pentecost, before the dbr, if they did not know about "the Gospel" until Pentecost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Yep, those are my words and are the Gospel. I retract nothing.
    More evasion-I did not ask if those were your words. I asked: Did Judas preach, in your definition of "the Gospel," in your words.....

    "Jesus in our name and on our behalf has offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience according to his Holy Law, and then atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, and that it is because of the doing and the dying of Jesus that we can now stand before God's Holy Court as Justified?".


    Yes, or no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The word "Gospel" means good news. The good news is that Jesus in our name and on our behalf has offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience according to his Holy Law, and then atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

    It is because of the doing and the dying of Jesus that we can now stand before God's Holy Court as Justified. That is the good news.
    ____________


    Did Judas preach this "the Gospel" you defined above?


    Simple question.
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