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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Please think more times before accusing me of sin like mocking.

    I really thought that you were telling the trinitarians that you believed more like them than you and I.

    You say things like you are not against the trinitarians, and how you are like them.


    You said before that the Qur'an is like the trinity doctrine.

    No ma'am, no I did not. I have a slight issue communicating clearly but I did not say the Quran was like the trinity. I said Satan against Satan causes his own house to fall and you think trinity and Quran are of Satan yet the trinity is spoken against in the Quran so you have to be wrong on one or the other.

    I said I had a similar belief to trinitarians but that I do not claim that the Son is co-eternal with the FATHER in both directions, as in the Son is of GOD and the Word is of GOD and came from GOD as all scripture attests to. Nothing ascends to heaven that was not of heaven

    If I misread you I apologise. You too should practice your own advice and I will too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    So you believe as I do that Jesus' spirit as a man was the Father's Spirit; and that he was also baptized with the Holy Spirit with power?

    There are many who say Jesus wasn't the Christ until he was baptized in the flesh.

    There are also many who say Jesus' spirit was not the Father's come in the flesh. Those are the trinitarians and they are the ones who say we are condemned for saying such a thing.
    I haven't forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post

    I was really saved too at age thirty and have never been baptised or circumcised of the flesh.
    Well, it's clear you have never been saved, so why should we believe you've never been circumcised....as if anyone wants to hear anything about that.

    Is this going to one of those threads where it's all about you, again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus' spirit is the Spirit of the Father come as a man.
    There you go....denying the humanity of the Lord Jesus Christ. You said all men have their own spirit, but you deny Jesus had the spirit of a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    You said before that the Qur'an is like the trinity doctrine.

    No ma'am, no I did not. I have a slight issue communicating clearly but I did not say the Quran was like the trinity. I said Satan against Satan causes his own house to fall and you think trinity and Quran are of Satan
    Well, I actually have not said that. You are probably getting me confused with someone else. Maybe you get that I believe that, but again, I have not posted that.

    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post

    yet the trinity is spoken against in the Quran so you have to be wrong on one or the other.
    Not so, because the Qur'an might go against the trinity, and be right about going against the trinity doctrine, but that does not mean that they are not wrong with their belief on who Jesus is.

    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    I said I had a similar belief to trinitarians but that I do not claim that the Son is co-eternal with the FATHER in both directions, as in the Son is of GOD and the Word is of GOD and came from GOD as all scripture attests to. Nothing ascends to heaven that was not of heaven
    If you believe that Jesus came from heaven, why not believe that Jesus was co eternal with God? Do you mean because He is God and therefore not co? I believe that Jesus' resurrected body was first in heaven before coming in the flesh, and then resurrected to the body he had before coming to earth; whereas our bodies are flesh first then after we die we will be given a body like Jesus'.
    I believe that there are three and that the three are one and the same.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    There you go....denying the humanity of the Lord Jesus Christ. You said all men have their own spirit, but you deny Jesus had the spirit of a man.
    I just said Jesus' spirit is the Father's COME AS A MAN's.

    Now would you like to explain how Jesus came from heaven if his flesh and spirit did not come from heaven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Paul quoted pagans as if it were God's truth?
    Paul quoted pagans. I did not say he quoted it as God’s truth.

    Are you unaware that he quoted pagans?

    When I have time I will provide the quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2003cobra View Post
    Paul quoted pagans. I did not say he quoted it as God’s truth.

    Are you unaware that he quoted pagans?

    When I have time I will provide the quote.
    I think I know what you are talking about, but what does it have to do with anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I just said Jesus' spirit is the Father's COME AS A MAN's.

    Now would you like to explain how Jesus came from heaven if his flesh and spirit did not come from heaven?

    lol
    It's called the incarnation. God became flesh and dwelt among us. That flesh includes a human spirit. duh

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Well, it's clear you have never been saved, so why should we believe you've never been circumcised....as if anyone wants to hear anything about that.

    Is this going to one of those threads where it's all about you, again?
    I would like to speak about the subject matter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    It's called the incarnation. God became flesh and dwelt among us. That flesh includes a human spirit. duh
    So if Jesus' spirit is not of the Father's, and his flesh is only of Mary's, how do you get that he came from heaven?

    Just saying someone came from heaven but has no spirit or flesh from heaven isn't acceptable.

    Jesus CAME from heaven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    It's called the incarnation. God became flesh and dwelt among us. That flesh includes a human spirit. duh
    in·car·na·tion

    ˌinkärˈnāSH(ə)n/

    noun

    1.

    a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality.

    "Rama was Vishnu's incarnation on earth"

    synonyms:embodiment, personification, exemplification, type, epitome;

    manifestation,bodily form, avatar

    "the incarnation of

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    So none want to speak about scripture and sacred texts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    So none want to speak about scripture and sacred texts?

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    So now our beliefs are clarified, tell me if the Qur'an is compatible with the way we believe about Jesus as for Jesus being God the Father coming in the flesh.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
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