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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Can be and is are two different things. If you have scripture put it up.



    I don't have to guess. I know.

    There is, indeed, ONE GOD and He is a plural being - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

    That ONE SPIRIT you're talking about is the Holy Spirit. Hence, God the Spirit as opposed to God the Father or God the Son.
    So to you the father and son and spirit literally have separate spirits? Or is it that two of the three have no spirit? Wait, you say Christ has a human spirit so that is two different spirits. What about the part you call the father? Is that yet another spirit or is it without spirit to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Well, not exactly, but you don't do exact, do you?




    And still it's a profound truth that goes right over your head.
    It is polytheism which goes right over your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    Really? A definition from a "Dictionary" then verses makes 'little sense???




    It sounds a bit like Ephesians 2:8-10 HOW can you say I make 'little sense' then quote one of the things I posted?

    It isn't just 'avoiding lies' but also seeking only what is true. IOW, if we are following something that is true and another something that is a lie, then we are off to a poor start, we are disbelieving something that is true AND believing something that isn't, where they both contradict.


    Did you know "Muslim" Arabs are killing "Christian" Arabs? Did you know the ONLY reason is because they aren't "Muslims?"
    Did you know some "Muslims" are leaving and becoming "Christians" and they don't get to be both?

    For your consideration: Revelation 2:14 Exodus 23:24;34:14 Acts 8:10,21,22 1 John 4:5-8 Galatians 1:6-10 John 3:16-18 Deuteronomy 13:6-10
    2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 John 14:9,10 2 Corinthians 5:17 Acts 19:26

    I find a good deal of the time, most people who say such things are giving opinion RATHER than knowing where their opinion may greatly disagree with scripture.
    Not in that case friendo.

    Instead of posting some reference why not post the actual scripture along with your commentary so it can be seen plainly and discussed openly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Jesus came with grace; he was full of grace (and truth)

    Truth is key as most like to say the truth changed with the false third testament of St. Paul, along with another Gospel which he specifically preached against.

    They will stop at nothing to be allowed to continue in error and too feel false security.

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    That is exactly right. They make a third testament, a new covenant of Paul. They have a false sense of security is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelight View Post
    Excelllent observations, since Truth itself is universal, although expressed in different words, symbols, texts and forms.

    The One Infinite Spirit itself is the Heart of the cosmos, all space and time, all worlds, all dimensions...and naturally so. All true ancient schools of wisdom have recognized the perennial philosophy, which expound and study the universal laws and principles. Anyone with a minor knowledge or study of comparitive religions, metaphysics and philosophy would be aquainted to know this much,...for starters.

    Essence is one, forms are many.

    One Ocean, many rivers.

    ~*~*~

    Having read thru the thread,...we would expect the typical answers, juxtapositions and bunny trails,....but hey,...its TOL

    As perhaps one of the most eclectic here, and universal...I try to have fun with the kids, but harsh when needed, but the critique is upon the thought, concept, belief, logic, rationale or principle,...that is what we are discussing, not persons or personalities, although some debates can turn into personal excursions, which we would hope to avoid by treating the subject alone.

    Beyond treating topics with 'creative commentary',.... beliefs, opinions and points of view may be contested, tried, challenged or even raked over the coals,...as points of view are subject to CHANGE, with the arrival of more inforomation or revelation. A genuine student of truth is always OPEN to research his opinions and LEARN, continually question, research his assumptions. A great teacher once admonished one to continually be asking, seeking and knocking. I gather most of you know of this teacher. But God has used and continues to use many different teachers....since the Great Spirit uses many vessels thru which to work.

    You cannot put the INFINITE in a 'box', worship your 'box' and then pretend or assume your 'box' is all there is. 'Box' here refers to prefigured concepts, ideas, opinions, beliefs, traditions, dogmas, creeds, etc. Sometimes you have to trade your 'cardboard' for the true gold of Spirit, and leave it at that, since the Spirit Alone is LIFE.




    Unfortunately, the 'fun' might put a 'damper' on many personal parades here, but sometimes a good rain is nice to cool, moisten and break up the fallowed ground

    Those following my more serious commentaries (see my previous posts) can see I also enjoy some humor, at various expenses, while also trying to be as civil as possible. This boldness has gotten me removed/blocked from some discussion threads, with no warning or explanation. But I go forward.

    'God' the Universal Spirit is a FOUNT that is not limited to only one human tribe, race, community or religious cult. It just so happens that all streams of truth originate from one Ocean of Spirit and the 'Christ' is that inner spark, spirit, essence, light, logic of the Creator, that is awakened inside the cradle of the soul, illuminating man into his divine sonship, whereby he recognizes God as his Father-Mother, and then being "in Christ" sees there is no division between genders, race or culture....but all are one in God. Use whatever terms or symbols you like, a study of universal principles and esoteric science points to one universal truth, one underlying fundamental knowledge sourced in the unity of Spirit.

    While the Bible is a valuabe, useful, inspired text (having religious, historical and mythical elements), there are also some parts that are not necessarily useful or practical to men living in this day and age, due to cultural changes, imperfections and rational application. This may be said with any of the other great traditional religious texts of our world religions as well. Each religious text is limited to a degree by its own dispensation being conditioned by various factors relative to its inception and development, further adapted or modified in time (via translation and interpretation). - this just happens to be the natural 'process'.

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    Jesus has nothing to do with other gods.

    Thieves will not inherit.

    The thief that climbed over is not going to inherit.


    1 Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    John 10:1 "Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.

    1 Corinthians 10:21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    I took the compression bandage off of her last night.

    She is getting around a little better. I still have to carry her outside though. She acts a little confused when I give her her pain meds, but she will be out of them soon. She is bleeding pretty good still. Just making sure I keep her as comfortable as possible and keep her eating and drinking. I think she is going to make it out okay.

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    I can imagine what you are going through. Glad to hear that she is going to make it out okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Your words show the nature of your spirit

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    I want nothing to do with the evil spirits she shows to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    So to you the father and son and spirit literally have separate spirits? Or is it that two of the three have no spirit? Wait, you say Christ has a human spirit so that is two different spirits. What about the part you call the father? Is that yet another spirit or is it without spirit to you?

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    It is as if they make it up as they go along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Y'all should start another thread and discuss it there.
    Shalom.

    Today is Revi'i, 10-23. It is Yom, Day.

    I do not believe that it would be appropriate to start a discussion unrelated to the OP, the Opening Post.

    Shalom.

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    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    Today is Revi'i, 10-23. It is Yom, Day.

    I do not believe that it would be appropriate to start a discussion unrelated to the OP, the Opening Post.

    Shalom.

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    Howdy.

    Today is Wednesday January 10th, 2018.

    It would indeed be appropriate to start another thread about it, as to not derail this thread from the OP.

    "The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name." Exodus 15:3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Howdy.

    Today is Wednesday January 10th, 2018.

    It would indeed be appropriate to start another thread about it, as to not derail this thread from the OP.
    Shalom.

    Correct, but I am the one that was addressed here.

    I do not observe your calendar.

    Shalom.

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    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    Correct, but I am the one that was addressed here.

    I do not observe your calendar.

    Shalom.

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    Today is today.
    Today doesn't change no matter what today is called.

    "The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name." Exodus 15:3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Today is today.
    Today doesn't change no matter what today is called.
    Shalom.

    Day and the Calendar Day end at sundown. So this has to do with what we call today.

    Shalom.

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    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    What a very foolish remark to a very specific question.

    That tells why Jesus came.

    Explains nothing about the question I asked though you have been taught by man that it does....it is a shame.

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    It is a shame because it DOES answer your question. Read it again, without the preconceived notions this time. You asked 'why.' Now read it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    Not in that case friendo.

    Instead of posting some reference why not post the actual scripture along with your commentary so it can be seen plainly and discussed openly?
    No, YOU read the scriptures given. Imho, this is your shortcoming this week. You aren't reading the Bible nor understanding it.
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    Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
    Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
    Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
    No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

    Is Calvinism okay? Yep

    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

    1Co 13:11 ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

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