Reply With QuoteJudgeRightly (January 22nd, 2018)
Jesus is Divine and Human. As you have been told time and time again.Originally Posted by popsthebuilder
JudgeRightly (January 22nd, 2018)
Divine logic................
Readers can read what I wrote before and more properly interpret it, to determine if your claim above is true.
See above.You must know that you are in error when you have to demean the Holy Bible, as if God cannot preserve His written Word.
Your personal belief is noted.All need to convert to the Holy Bible and give up their false teachings.
My theology neither insists or assumes the above. Anyone interested can let the words speak for themselves.You cannot add and subtract to the Holy Bible and make your own god as if it is the one and only God.
One cannot limit the Infinite Spirit to one book. If this is your claim or 'belief', the burden of proof is upon you to provide the evidence for such a 'claim' or 'belief'. The thread is about discussion on that subject, - I've supplied points to challenge the 'assumption' of the Bible as the only 'sacred text' in the world, with supporting rationale and logic.
You tryin' to prove Jesus is not the son of God?You shouldn't assume the Jews were as ignorant of I AM as you apparently are. Let's watch you distort yourself explaining this one 'Mary'.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Scripture must have been fulfilled...
King James Version
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Luke 22
37
For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
This is why they went backwards when he said I am he....
Psalms 70:2
“Let them be ashamed and confounded that seek after my soul: let them be turned backward, and put to confusion, that desire my hurt.”
John 18:6
“As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.”
Psalm 70 is the Son praying to His Father.
Not some proof text he is God.
The Father loves the Son and always hears Him.
1
Make haste, O God, to deliver me;
make haste to help me, O LORD.
2
Let them be ashamed and confounded
that seek after my soul:
let them be turned backward, and put to confusion,
that desire my hurt.
3
Let them be turned back for a reward of their shame
that say, Aha, aha.
4
Let all those that seek thee
rejoice and be glad in thee:
and let such as love thy salvation
say continually, Let God be magnified.
5
But I am poor and needy;
make haste unto me, O God:
thou art my help and my deliverer;
O LORD, make no tarrying.
popsthebuilder (January 17th, 2018)
No, I'm trying to prove that Jesus is God, was with God and was God before He became flesh and dwelt among us. Therefore, when He refers to Himself as I AM, He is telling them that He is God and was God from the beginning (even before Abraham).
Nice try, but the gods there were the Judges of Israel, and even they were called the children of the most High. He went on to say, if they didn't believe Him they should believe the work he was doing, and that the Father was in Him and He was in the Father. They sought to take him again, because they knew He was performing miracles...healing the lame and blind (even the Judges of Israel could not do that).Scripture must have been fulfilled...
King James Version
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
The Jews knew what He was claiming, which is why they accused Him of blasphemy.
but nice try.
Jesus came from heaven. You have said Jesus' flesh and spirit was not.
Go ahead and clear things up then:
Do you believe that all the things in the Holy Bible are true and happened as said?
Are you starting to get it now?You tryin' to prove Jesus is not the son of God?
Scripture must have been fulfilled...
King James Version
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Luke 22
37
For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
This is why they went backwards when he said I am he....
Psalms 70:2
“Let them be ashamed and confounded that seek after my soul: let them be turned backward, and put to confusion, that desire my hurt.”
John 18:6
“As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.”
Psalm 70 is the Son praying to His Father.
Not some proof text he is God.
The Father loves the Son and always hears Him.
1
Make haste, O God, to deliver me;
make haste to help me, O LORD.
2
Let them be ashamed and confounded
that seek after my soul:
let them be turned backward, and put to confusion,
that desire my hurt.
3
Let them be turned back for a reward of their shame
that say, Aha, aha.
4
Let all those that seek thee
rejoice and be glad in thee:
and let such as love thy salvation
say continually, Let God be magnified.
5
But I am poor and needy;
make haste unto me, O God:
thou art my help and my deliverer;
O LORD, make no tarrying.
Jesus is the I AM.
The I AM is God the Father.
Understand now?
So.... God the Father was poor and needy?
Give the scripture.
maybe you should read the quote before you hit the button?
So you don't have a scripture you would like to talk about?
The Father came as a Son of man in the flesh and become poor for our sake.
I thought you were finally starting to understand but it looks like if you were, you lost it.
Looks more like you and glory should stop fighting.
You two got more in common than you know.
meshak (January 23rd, 2018)
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