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    Quote Originally Posted by zzub View Post
    I guess you are saying that God predestined Obama on America as some kind of punishment.

    I'd be interested to know what that punishment was for. But more so, why you conclude God has not predestined Trump as some kind of punishment.
    You don't believe in God, get lost punk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    There have been doubts as to the validity of Obama's Christian faith. Obama, himself, once let it slip that he stood by his "Muslim Faith." Someone in the background had to correct him on that. Besides, many people claim to be a Christian, however, in order to consider yourself a 'true believer' one MUST be a member of the "Body of Christ."
    For example, Trump says he's a Christian, but he says it's not necessary to ask God for forgiveness, and he says that adultery is not a sin.

    Is that what Christians say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    For example, Trump says he's a Christian, but he says it's not necessary to ask God for forgiveness, and he says that adultery is not a sin.

    Is that what Christians say?
    Know a lot of Christians that waited till marriage? Maybe you do since you're older but it's fairly rare in the last 50 or 60 years.
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    Far-left wing liberal Dems focus on everything President Trump says, does, and thinks. They only look for supposed, 'Gotcha moments.' These types of people are 'Trump Haters" and will not accept ANYTHING about him. They're extremely angry about Hillary's loss and refuse to accept Trump's Presidency. I find that odd, illogical, childish, and unpatriotic. By the way, I like to refer to Hillary as; "TEFLON HILL."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    For example, Trump says he's a Christian, but he says it's not necessary to ask God for forgiveness, and he says that adultery is not a sin.

    Is that what Christians say?
    Trump is as much Christian as you are. You're pretty slick for a wicked catholic.
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    Barbarian asks:
    For example, Trump says he's a Christian, but he says it's not necessary to ask God for forgiveness, and he says that adultery is not a sin.

    Is that what Christians say?

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    Trump is as much Christian as you are.
    I'm saying that we all need to ask God for forgiveness. And I accept God's word that adultery is a sin. So either I'm wrong, or Trump is wrong. Who do you think is wrong?

    You're pretty slick for a wicked catholic.
    You're not slick enough to dodge the question. So pick a side and we'll know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Know a lot of Christians that waited till marriage?
    Adultery is what you do when you abandon your marriage vows. It's different and a greater sin than mere fornication.

    Maybe you do since you're older but it's fairly rare in the last 50 or 60 years.
    So is being faithful to your spouse. But few of us have betrayed three wives, one at a time. That's Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Trump is as much Christian as you are. You're pretty slick for a wicked catholic.
    Trump is no sort of Christian. It is always just a little satisfying to see the charlatans around him kiss the ring of power and lay their hands on him and whatnot. Religion is a business, and his Evangelical fixers demonstrate it every chance they can.
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    For example, Trump says he's a Christian, but he says it's not necessary to ask God for forgiveness, and he says that adultery is not a sin.

    Is that what Christians say?
    Perhaps in the reign of Trump, adultery is no longer seen as an evil act that destroys marriages and families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    For example, Trump says he's a Christian, but he says it's not necessary to ask God for forgiveness, and he says that adultery is not a sin.

    Is that what Christians say?
    I can answer that question. No *true* believer would ever say any such thing. To say it's not necessary to ask for forgiveness is the equivalent of saying "I have never done anything to be forgiven for". It's quite apparent that Trump used the label of Christian for no other purpose than receiving votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Trump is no sort of Christian. It is always just a little satisfying to see the charlatans around him kiss the ring of power and lay their hands on him and whatnot. Religion is a business, and his Evangelical fixers demonstrate it every chance they can.
    I think Trump believes that Jesus Christ died for his sins, was buried and rose the third day. If he does he's a Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I think Trump believes that Jesus Christ died for his sins, was buried and rose the third day. If he does he's a Christian.
    You never can say; only God knows for sure. But someone once said, you need to ask yourself; "if it was illegal to be a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict?"

    Trump would be pretty safe, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I think Trump believes that Jesus Christ died for his sins, was buried and rose the third day. If he does he's a Christian.
    I doubt he could say that much about it, if put on the spot. Maybe with a teleprompter.
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    I doubt he could say that much about it, if put on the spot. Maybe with a teleprompter.
    Don't be such a zoilist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Don't be such a zoilist.
    Just a fact about him. He doesn't know the first thing about Christianity, and that is the first thing.
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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