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    A description written by someone in the so-called Free Grace Alliance, which somehow is/was related to GES:

    While GES does hold that the cross and resurrection of Christ are essential to Christ’s saving work, they do not believe that those facts are a necessary part of the saving message.
    So in other words...the DBR is indeed God's means to save you, that's only a technical point an evangelistic message need not be cluttered with. If you want to be saved, you don't need to be aware that the DBR is God's means to save you (meaning, if you don't need to know it, you don't need to believe it).

    That explains why you see the gospel of John cited way more than Paul in evangelistic materials, and hence the label "crossless gospel."

    Yet Paul didn't tell the Corinthians that they could just "trust in Jesus for eternal life." What he recounts telling them is something pretty simple but much more specific:

    1 Cor 15:2-4
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Unrelated to the above, a co-worker has invited me to his church, which is Steven Furtick's. I'd vaguely heard of the guy but only now looked him up. Hoo boy. I asked my friend if Furtick preaches Christ per the revelation of the mystery. He didn't know, so I said to please look it up.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Let me worry about that. You worry about the prayer rug you'll be buying in about 20 years.
    That'll be the same one pulled out from under you.
    Delight yourself in the LORD, And He shall give you the desires of your heart. . Psalms 37:4

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post
    That'll be the same one pulled out from under you.
    You are truly, childishly stupid.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Hoo boy.
    Thou hast well said.
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    You are truly, childishly stupid.
    Is that all you got as a comeback? tut tut.
    Delight yourself in the LORD, And He shall give you the desires of your heart. . Psalms 37:4

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