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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    Fisting, urolagnia, and coprophilia were not planned subjects of the seminar you brought up. Fisting was brought into the discussion by a student. The speakers had promised to speak honestly about sex in that session tried to address it and I will admit did so quite poorly.
    I'm not sure they did it poorly. the response was entirely clinical, MassResistance heavily edited their tape to create false impressions and outrage.

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    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

    How about we do something "different" when I start the segment on homosexual indoctrination of children in schools?

    How about you [Arthur Brain], ...Dante and Kit "...sob sob" the Coyote each present a scenario where you give a talk on sex education to a 'gay' youth, i.e. a youth with homosexual desires? I'll counter by giving a talk on sex education to youth who has heterosexual desires.


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    what about the youths that have both?
    Bisexuality falls within the LGBT acronym. If you want to give sexual advice to a youth with bisexual desires in your scenario, feel free to do so.

    You are going to partake in the scenario when the time comes aren't you ...Dante?
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    Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote
    Fisting, urolagnia, and coprophilia were not planned subjects of the seminar you brought up. Fisting was brought into the discussion by a student. The speakers had promised to speak honestly about sex in that session tried to address it and I will admit did so quite poorly.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    I'm not sure they did it poorly. the response was entirely clinical, MassResistance heavily edited their tape to create false impressions and outrage.
    Is that what the LGBTQ movement is calling teaching sexual perversion to youth these days: "clinical sex education"?

    Just so I can keep up with your undocumented allegations (bold faced lies) against Massresistance:

    1). They "planted" a high school student inside the seminar and told him to ask about fisting.

    2). They heavily edited the tape recorded inside a seminar to make it look like a seminar teaching crocheting to high school students really was lessons on teaching them sexually depraved acts (things that homosexuals do).


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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    If you're going to promote homosexuality to youth, and hence introduce them to the culture of death, you best "qualify" yourself to lie through your teeth without blinking an eye like professional educators and counselors who promote immoral/perverse sex do.
    Since the goal is not to promote any sexuality and avoiding the culture of death is addressed I don't see that lying is an issue. The most important thing is that your children see you as an honest source of information that they know they can come to and talk with confidence. Otherwise, you are driving them to more dangerous sources of information.

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    So you don't differentiate between homosexuality and heterosexuality nor would you speak to opposite genders differently about sexual relations?
    On the subject of sex education, there is nothing homosexuals do that heterosexuals don't also do and I can think of no subject that should be exclusive to boy or girls. If we had daughters, we would likely have added a little extra emphasis on the risk of pregnancy but I think it is important for boys to understand that too.

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    So out of wedlock sex is acceptable as long as they "know the person really well"? What's considered "long-term"?. BTW, was "marriage" an option when this alleged talk with your alleged 'gay' son took place?
    I wouldn't say it was 'acceptable' more an acknowledgment of reality. The sex out of wedlock taboo is long dead in our society with the NIH latest surveys showing that 75-80% of youth in the US are having sex before they are married. This incidentally is why abstinence-only until marriage education approach is failing.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1802108/

    So while we did emphasis 'ideally in marriage', it was more important to teach to them that sex must be part of a serious relationship with someone you really care about and know well. This is part of avoiding that death culture you like to go on about.

    Not only does this train them to avoid casual multi-partner sex but it also means that the people they do have sex with will be more likely to be the person they will marry in the long run.

    No, marriage was not an option at the time and of course, we started talking sex with our boys before he came out to us. Another reason to focus on relationships. I was massively relieved that it is now an option.

    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    The real "hurt" is not telling your alleged son who allegedly is homosexual that emotionally, physically and spiritually the sexual desires that he has and the behavior that follows is literally a dead end for him.
    And drive him away from us to more dangerous sources of information? It is possible to be homosexual and not live the 'deathstyle' you go on about and that is what we emphasized with him. The focus on relationships and sex became even more important.

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    *So you talked about HIV/AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhea, anal cancer, etc. etc. with your alleged 'gay' son as well using condoms and not engaging in high-risk homosexual acts at age 9 or 10?
    At ten we were still focusing on not having sex too early and stranger danger. But yes as they grew into their sexuality the dangers and risks associated with any sexual activity were emphasized and the importance of safe sex practices. We also emphasized again the importance of relationships and avoiding causal sex.

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    You do realize that your advice lacks one important term that differentiates between life and death?

    Moral absolutes.
    You asked specifically about sex education which is what I focused on. Moral and social behavior is a larger but related subject and they were part of our discussions. Particularly on the emphasis of relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    I'm not sure they did it poorly. the response was entirely clinical, MassResistance heavily edited their tape to create false impressions and outrage.
    I sort of suspected as much, the MassResistance made a big deal about it yet it only seemed to amount to three lines of discussion.

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    I see that ...Dante wants to have me banned for saying this in an earlier post:

    "Nobody ever said that you homosexual child indoctrinators are smart,"

    I'll kindly ask TOL moderator Sherman to ban ...Dante from this thread as it appears as well as spreading lies about a pro traditional family values organization (Massrestistance) he wants the author of this thread silenced.
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    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    If you're going to promote homosexuality to youth, and hence introduce them to the culture of death, you best "qualify" yourself to lie through your teeth without blinking an eye like professional educators and counselors who promote immoral/perverse sex do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    Since the goal is not to promote any sexuality and avoiding the culture of death is addressed I don't see that lying is an issue. The most important thing is that your children see you as an honest source of information that they know they can come to and talk with confidence. Otherwise, you are driving them to more dangerous sources of information.
    If you're discussing homosexuality with youth and don't emphasize that it's physically, emotionally and spiritually deadly, you're not being honest with that youth (to put it mildly).


    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    So you don't differentiate between homosexuality and heterosexuality nor would you speak to opposite genders differently about sexual relations?

    On the subject of sex education, there is nothing homosexuals do that heterosexuals don't also do and I can think of no subject that should be exclusive to boy or girls. If we had daughters, we would likely have added a little extra emphasis on the risk of pregnancy but I think it is important for boys to understand that too.
    That lie again? Sure, a few heterosexuals engage in the perversions that the vast majority of homosexuals partake in (8 out of 10 homosexual males engage in buggery), as well as other sexually depraved acts, but they're your allies, not your opponent.


    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    So out of wedlock sex is acceptable as long as they "know the person really well"? What's considered "long-term"?. BTW, was "marriage" an option when this alleged talk with your alleged 'gay' son took place?

    I wouldn't say it was 'acceptable' more an acknowledgment of reality. The sex out of wedlock taboo is long dead in our society with the NIH latest surveys showing that 75-80% of youth in the US are having sex before they are married. This incidentally is why abstinence-only until marriage education approach is failing.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1802108/
    Need I pull up abortion rates amongst out of wedlock sexual relationships? While Kinsey's propaganda has resulted in sexual promiscuity and sexual relations outside of marriage, that doesn't mean that the basis of human sexuality (marriage) is wrong.

    ...No, marriage was not an option at the time and of course, we started talking sex with our boys before he came out to us. Another reason to focus on relationships. I was massively relieved that it is now an option.
    So you told your allegedly 'gay' son to wait until marriage before sex, even though marriage wasn't an option at the time?


    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    The real "hurt" is not telling your alleged son who allegedly is homosexual that emotionally, physically and spiritually the sexual desires that he has and the behavior that follows is literally a dead end for him.

    And drive him away from us to more dangerous sources of information? It is possible to be homosexual and not live the 'deathstyle' you go on about and that is what we emphasized with him. The focus on relationships and sex became even more important.
    What's better: a parent driving his alleged son to an early grave or the alleged child finding out on his own (through truthful parental advice) that homosexuality is a dead end behavior and lifestyle?


    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    *So you talked about HIV/AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhea, anal cancer, etc. etc. with your alleged 'gay' son as well using condoms and not engaging in high-risk homosexual acts at age 9 or 10?

    At ten we were still focusing on not having sex too early and stranger danger. But yes as they grew into their sexuality the dangers and risks associated with any sexual activity were emphasized and the importance of safe sex practices. We also emphasized again the importance of relationships and avoiding causal sex.
    I wanted to be outside playing ball when I was 9, not being told about HIV/AIDS, gonorrhea and syphilis. Thanks for acknowledging that the LGBTQ movement steals the innocence away from children.


    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    You do realize that your advice lacks one important term that differentiates between life and death?

    Moral absolutes.

    You asked specifically about sex education which is what I focused on. Moral and social behavior is a larger but related subject and they were part of our discussions. Particularly on the emphasis of relationships.
    So you have no problem borrowing off Judeo-Christian moral absolutes, but putting your own little perverted twist on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

    How about we do something "different" when I start the segment on homosexual indoctrination of children in schools?

    How about you [Arthur Brain], ...Dante and Kit "...sob sob" the Coyote each present a scenario where you give a talk on sex education to a 'gay' youth, i.e. a youth with homosexual desires? I'll counter by giving a talk on sex education to youth who has heterosexual desires.




    Bisexuality falls within the LGBT acronym. If you want to give sexual advice to a youth with bisexual desires in your scenario, feel free to do so.

    You are going to partake in the scenario when the time comes aren't you ...Dante?
    I'm not writing out any loopy scenarios, that's your "job". I've never "indoctrinated" or given any advice on sexual matters to youths, gay or otherwise either.
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    Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
    Bisexuality falls within the LGBT acronym. If you want to give sexual advice to a youth with bisexual desires in your scenario, feel free to do so.

    You are going to partake in the scenario when the time comes aren't you ...Dante?


    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    I'm not writing out any loopy scenarios, that's your "job". I've never "indoctrinated" or given any advice on sexual matters to youths, gay or otherwise either.
    (Hmmmm, Arthur Brain answers for ...Dante again. Interesting, very interesting).

    Like I told Kit the Coyote: If you're going to support the term 'gay youth', at least give them some helpful advice when it comes to the perverse sex that they'll be engaging in.

    I should note that you can open your scenario with "I'm straight" and throw that disclaimer in another dozen times so that it's perfectly clear that you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
    Bisexuality falls within the LGBT acronym. If you want to give sexual advice to a youth with bisexual desires in your scenario, feel free to do so.

    You are going to partake in the scenario when the time comes aren't you ...Dante?




    (Hmmmm, Arthur Brain answers for ...Dante again. Interesting, very interesting).

    Like I told Kit the Coyote: If you're going to support the term 'gay youth', at least give them some helpful advice when it comes to the perverse sex that they'll be engaging in.

    I should note that you can open your scenario with "I'm straight" and throw that disclaimer in another dozen times so that it's perfectly clear that you are.
    Eh? You put my own username in your post ya big dope!

    You're surely not again implying that posters are sock puppets of each other after Sherman set you straight on the matter how many times now?



    Sorry on the latter dude as it seems to be a constant source of irritation to you for some reason but straight, heterosexual, women only etc here is the way it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    That lie again? Sure, a few heterosexuals engage in the perversions that the vast majority of homosexuals partake in (8 out of 10 homosexual males engage in buggery), as well as other sexually depraved acts, but they're your allies, not your opponent.
    And the same studies that produced that 8 out of 10 number showed that the 2 out of 10 heterosexuals engage in the activity. So where is the lie? And a lot engage in oral sex. Now that being said, it is not like we were sitting down listing all possible sex acts in graphic detail, we discussed sex in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Need I pull up abortion rates amongst out of wedlock sexual relationships? While Kinsey's propaganda has resulted in sexual promiscuity and sexual relations outside of marriage, that doesn't mean that the basis of human sexuality (marriage) is wrong.
    We put an emphasis on marriage so we did not say marriage is wrong, we encouraged it. You can pull all the states and rates you want and we did bring those things up in emphasizing relationships and marriage but it doesn't change the reality that we have to deal with. By putting the emphasis on relationships and safe sex we focus on avoiding the very promiscuity and other problems you raise.

    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    What's better: a parent driving his alleged son to an early grave or the alleged child finding out on his own (through truthful parental advice) that homosexuality is a dead end behavior and lifestyle?
    A child finding out the dangers and risks of dead-end behaviors from a parent they love and trust than finding it out the hard way.

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    I wanted to be outside playing ball when I was 9, not being told about HIV/AIDS, gonorrhea and syphilis. Thanks for acknowledging that the LGBTQ movement steals the innocence away from children.
    Completely misrepresenting what I said again. Thanks for acknowledging that you do so.

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    So you have no problem borrowing off Judeo-Christian moral absolutes, but putting your own little perverted twist on it?
    As I pointed out before, the Judeo-Christian faith does not have an exclusive ownership of those values. In fact, most religions and non-religious moral systems share them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Eh? You put my own username in your post ya big dope!
    Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
    Like I told Kit the Coyote: If you're going to support the term 'gay youth', at least give them some helpful advice when it comes to the perverse sex that they'll be engaging in.

    You're surely not again implying that posters are sock puppets of each other after Sherman set you straight on the matter how many times now?



    Sorry on the latter dude as it seems to be a constant source of irritation to you for some reason but straight, heterosexual, women only etc here is the way it is.


    Let me help you with the scenario: When a 'gay' teenage boy asks about engaging in acts of Urolagnia, you can tell him to be sure to wear a shower cap.

    See how easy it will be answer questions for an inquisitive 'gay' youth?


    If he has other questions, here's a list of paraphilias that many homosexuals and their perverted allies are "into".

    http://www.psychologistanywhereanyti...ilias_list.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Let me help you with the scenario: When a 'gay' teenage boy asks about engaging in acts of Urolagnia, you can tell him to be sure to wear a shower cap.

    See how easy it will be answer questions for an inquisitive 'gay' youth?


    If he has other questions, here's a list of paraphilias that many homosexuals and their perverted allies are "into".

    http://www.psychologistanywhereanyti...ilias_list.htm
    Uh, no thanks...



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