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Thread: Paul: "The Just (Justified) Shall Live By Faith" and not by rules, laws or religion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The way of the Spirit is the way of the Gospel.

    In the Gospel we have been justified, sanctified and redeemed. We are complete in Christ, Colossians 2:10. We have ceased from our own works and are resting in the work of Jesus, Hebrews 4:10.

    Knowing this we have great joy and peace with God, Galatians 5:22
    Appears you do not accept Scripture or misread it. And Hebrews 4:10 is speaking of heaven if you read the context.
    You dismissed all the passages I posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestedandTried View Post
    Appears you do not accept Scripture or misread it. And Hebrews 4:10 is speaking of heaven if you read the context.
    You dismissed all the passages I posted.
    There is no mention of heaven in Hebrews 4:10, nor is there any mention of heaven in the whole 4th chapter. We rest in Christ work and not our own. Those that have not entered into Christ work and rest are the lost, Hebrews 4:3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heir View Post
    No, you just play one on the internet. It (the NC) will be with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, as in future, after the Body of Christ is caught up to meet the Lord in the air and after the seven year great tribulation.
    Incorrect. And I do not believe as you do. Shalom. Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Worshiper View Post
    That's one thing you have right Jacob; "Communion" via "setting up a table" was done under the law yet 'Christians' continue to do so (Hebrews 9:1-5)! "Communion" with GOD is now "All Spiritual" (II Corinthians 13:14)!

    Blessings
    You have been here able to share a different perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Incorrect. And I do not believe as you do. Shalom. Jacob
    You are not a Jew or spiritual Israel, Jacob (Ephesians 2:11-12 KJV). You're just a wannabe player...
    2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heir View Post
    You are not a Jew or spiritual Israel, Jacob (Ephesians 2:11-12 KJV). You're just a wannabe player...
    Incorrect. I read, study, observe, keep, and teach the Torah. I do not believe in spiritual Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    It is my belief that a person will act in public as they are in private.
    How do you justify that belief? It doesn't seem to square with reality. There are people who are forthright about their moral failings, and then there are those who are not; but everybody morally fails somewhere and somehow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    If a person lives according to God's Law
    But nobody does, not perfectly, as the Tanak says.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    How do you justify that belief? It doesn't seem to square with reality. There are people who are forthright about their moral failings, and then there are those who are not; but everybody morally fails somewhere and somehow.
    But nobody does, not perfectly, as the Tanak says.
    It has to do with whether or not you practice sin. If you treat others the way that you want to be treated, the way God wants them to be treated, then you do well, whether at home or outside of the home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    It has to do with whether or not you practice sin. If you treat others the way that you want to be treated, the way God wants them to be treated, then you do well, whether at home or outside of the home.
    What do you mean by "practice sin?" Do you mean something like, habitual sin?
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

    Trevor: "I know how to drive, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    What do you mean by "practice sin?" Do you mean something like, habitual sin?
    It could mean that. I mean if what you do transgresses God's Law. If you do not love God with all of your heart, with all of your soul, and with all of you might, and your neighbor as yourself. If what you do with your life is sin, you need to repent of that sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    It could mean that. I mean if what you do transgresses God's Law. If you do not love God with all of your heart, with all of your soul, and with all of you might, and your neighbor as yourself. If what you do with your life is sin, you need to repent of that sin.
    I believe that if you believe that the Lord Jesus is risen from the dead, then you do love God with all of your heart, with all of your soul, and with all of your might, and your neighbor as yourself. If what you do with your life is grave sin (objectively), then you need to contritely reconcile with the Church before receiving Holy Communion.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

    Trevor: "I know how to drive, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    I believe that if you believe that the Lord Jesus is risen from the dead, then you do love God with all of your heart, with all of your soul, and with all of your might, and your neighbor as yourself. If what you do with your life is grave sin (objectively), then you need to contritely reconcile with the Church before receiving Holy Communion.
    You are saying that as a non-Catholic and I am not a Catholic either. I do not participate in Catholic things. I do not even call myself a Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    You are saying that as a non-Catholic and I am not a Catholic either. I do not participate in Catholic things. I do not even call myself a Christian.
    You do understand how some people, perhaps many, would consider you a Christian, even if you do not identify as Christian, because you believe that the Lord Jesus is risen from the dead? Nobody believes that, except Christians.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    You do understand how some people, perhaps many, would consider you a Christian, even if you do not identify as Christian, because you believe that the Lord Jesus is risen from the dead? Nobody believes that, except Christians.
    I am a Jew. I used to call myself a Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I am a Jew. I used to call myself a Christian.
    Some white people call themselves black people.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

    Trevor: "I know how to drive, man."
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