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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Then you don't believe Paul, do you? You are a typical law loving Jew.
    I do believe Paul. I accept Matthew through Revelation.

    There is nothing wrong with loving God's Law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I do believe Paul. I accept Matthew through Revelation.

    There is nothing wrong with loving God's Law.

    The law is your Jesus. More than likely you will be in the, "Lord, Lord, didn't we" group, Matthew 7:21-23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The law is your Jesus. More than likely you will be in the, "Lord, Lord, didn't we" group, Matthew 7:21-23.
    Not at all. There is no room for boasting in the law. Jesus observed and taught the Law. He instructed us to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Not at all. There is no room for boasting in the law. Jesus observed and taught the Law. He instructed us to do the same.
    And you fail 100%.

    Do you love your neighbor as yourself? If you do, then sell all that you have and give it to the poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    And you fail 100%.

    Do you love your neighbor as yourself? If you do, then sell all that you have and give it to the poor.
    What I have is for my personal use and ministry. I do love my neighbor as myself. Currently I have school loan debt. I do not fail. God did not command me to fail and I do not intend to fail. But if I fail I do not know what you believe it is that I fail at. For example, do you already know God's Law or does it need to be taught to you? You begin with me by asking if I love my neighbor as myself. That is one of the commandments of the law that Jesus taught. To love God and your neighbor as yourself is what the entire Law is about.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    What I have is for my personal use and ministry. I do love my neighbor as myself. Currently I have school loan debt. I do not fail. God did not command me to fail and I do not intend to fail. But if I fail I do not know what you believe it is that I fail at. For example, do you already know God's Law or does it need to be taught to you? You begin with me by asking if I love my neighbor as myself. That is one of the commandments of the law that Jesus taught. To love God and your neighbor as yourself is what the entire Law is about.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

    If you do not sell what you have and give it to the poor you have failed to keep the law. So far it appears that you are a hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    If you do not sell what you have and give it to the poor you have failed to keep the law. So far it appears that you are a hypocrite.
    You do not know what you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    You do not know what you are talking about.
    Jesus also said, "Give to him that asks of you". I need a couple thousand, when can I expect the money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Jesus also said, "Give to him that asks of you". I need a couple thousand, when can I expect the money?
    You are crazy. He said nothing of stealing from others, threatening them, interrogating them, harassing them, or terrorizing them. To expect something of someone else according to a standard that you do not live by yourself does not make sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    You are crazy. He said nothing of stealing from others, threatening them, interrogating them, harassing them, or terrorizing them. To expect something of someone else according to a standard that you do not live by yourself does not make sense to me.
    Your problem is that you do not realize what the law demands. Where is my money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Your problem is that you do not realize what the law demands. Where is my money?
    Do I owe you something or are you asking where your money is? What are you saying the law demands?

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Do I owe you something or are you asking where your money is? What are you saying the law demands?

    Shalom.

    Jacob


    "Give to him that asks of you and from him that would borrow from you do not turn away" Matthew 5:42.

    I need the two thousand and then I need to borrow your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    "Give to him that asks of you and from him that would borrow from you do not turn away" Matthew 5:42.

    I need the two thousand and then I need to borrow your car.
    Are you asking something or demanding something? Why are you saying such things and persisting? I have asked you what you mean now.

    What two thousand? You said THE two thousand. I do not know what you are referring to. I do not believe I owe you anything. If you are asking and demanding something based on a prior agreement or something you believe that I said (I would do), I do not know what it is. I do not even own or have a car. Otherwise,, why does it matter to you if I do? And,, does the Law permit someone to borrow someone else's car?

    Shalom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Are you asking something or demanding something? Why are you saying such things and persisting? I have asked you what you mean now.

    What two thousand? You said THE two thousand. I do not know what you are referring to. I do not believe I owe you anything. If you are asking and demanding something based on a prior agreement or something you believe that I said (I would do), I do not know what it is. I do not even own or have a car. Otherwise,, why does it matter to you if I do? And,, does the Law permit someone to borrow someone else's car?

    Shalom.

    Jacob

    Come on Jacob, you are playing dumb.

    Under the law you are required to give to anyone that asks of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Jesus observed and taught the Law. He instructed us to do the same.
    He added. "This do in remembrance of Me." If you commit a grave transgression, you are not in full communion with Christians, but you can reconcile with Christians by confessing your grave transgression to them with contrition. Christians should celebrate communion.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

    Trevor: "I know how to drive, man."
    Ricky: "You also know how to be stupid."

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