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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    Where is it?

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    I noticed you posted a visitor message to me (thank you), but it would seem I am prohibited from replying.

    So... as far as current participation in a normal thread, any post I make goes into limbo until "approved" by the forum gods, which, when so deemed worthy to be seen, pops into the thread at the time I made the post, after pages of new posts had been added.

    I find it a bit difficult to participate in a conversation where what I say won't be seen for two days or so... two days or so previously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenn View Post
    Rationalization, though is obvious.





    (And only the eye of God is worthy to behold.)
    Nope, that's in the eye of the beholder, too.


    Believers are to judge all things. Some people really hate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    But it would be easy to reproduce them completely to exact content.
    I think that comment would rather surprise Dr. Metzger.

    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    Wilbur Pickering ...
    For some time, Wilbur N. Pickering has felt that among the many hundreds of Greek manuscripts known to exist today, surely God would have preserved the original wording.

    I tend not to put faith in personal surmises. (Surely God hated those other Greeks who had the "bad" manuscripts.)

    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    ... Von Soden.
    Hermann or Wolfram (Yes... Hermann of course.) Being new here, though, am I to surmise that you are a devotee of the Majority Text then?

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    I have a modernized 1522 Erasmus text ...
    Modernized? By whom? Is this like the Ebonics version? Now that would be really modern.

    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    Erasmus has a different version of 1 John 5:7 then (sic) what ended up in Stephanus, but is common to ancient manuscripts.
    I'm sure you realize that the Erasmus Greek was published as an appendix to his Latin text to prove that his Latin should supplant the Vulgate as the authoritative Bible. And that lacking any complete copy of Revelation, patched it up with his own Greek text.

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    PS: I am somewhat pleasantly surprised that there is such a "presence" of Greek aficionados here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenn View Post
    PS: I am somewhat pleasantly surprised that there is such a "presence" of Greek aficionados here.
    I might be one of one or one of two.

    The modernized Erasmus 1522 is made by Gateway International Publishing. It is 50 dollars though.
    http://www.randpaul.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Believers are to judge all things. Some people really hate that.
    It would seem, though that you think people are things. But then again, perhaps I misconstrue.

    But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. (1Co 4:3 KJV)

    Zenn

    PS: Where within you comes this need to justify the "nasty"?

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    As common query, I thought the rules showed that members can edit their posts, but I can't seem to be able to do that.

    Is there some "Edit" button I'm missing somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    I might be one of one or one of two.

    The modernized Erasmus 1522 is made by Gateway International Publishing. It is 50 dollars though.
    Well I've already given the link to the Interlinear I found at the age of 14, way before any introduction to the inscrutable machinations of the academics.

    Alas at one time I had an entire seminary library at my beck and call. (Moravian for those who are curious.)


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    PS: Glad to meet you SabathMoon

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    For those of you who have visited my "View Profile" page, I must say I am flattered.

    However, I am also prohibited from changing any settings in order to actually make a profile page.

    (I feel as if I have somehow let y'all down.)
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    So come back later if you wish when my sojourn in forum purgatory ends and I am released into the general public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenn View Post
    Why are you asking me? Am I to flee into my closet screaming "Troll, Troll !!"?


    But to answer, ... Endure. (Unto the end.)









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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenn View Post
    It would seem, though that you think people are things. But then again, perhaps I misconstrue.

    But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. (1Co 4:3 KJV)

    Zenn
    I don't think....I KNOW. It's what Paul is talking about when he tells us to judge all things. We are judging men. The words a man speaks concerning his beliefs are how we judge who is spiritual and who is carnal...or of the world. We are to recognize and expose the false prophets and teachers among us.

    1 Cor. 2:13-16 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

    PS: Where within you comes this need to justify the "nasty"?
    It wasn't my word, it was YOURS.

    Why assume it is a "need within" me? Such presumption to think I am justifying anything.



    In fact, I'm pointing out that what YOU might consider "nasty" does not mean it is "nasty"....whatever you meant by that word. For Jesus to call the Pharisees "whited sepulchres filled with dead men's bones" might be considered "nasty" to some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    For Jesus to call the Pharisees "whited sepulchres filled with dead men's bones" might be considered "nasty" to some.
    well my dear, Jesus was perfect. I am not surprised if you think you are perfect.

    We should not scare people off with our filthy mouth.

    just my two cents.

    blessings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenn View Post
    As common query, I thought the rules showed that members can edit their posts, but I can't seem to be able to do that.

    Is there some "Edit" button I'm missing somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    well my dear, Jesus was perfect. I am not surprised if you think you are perfect.

    We should not scare people off with our filthy mouth.

    just my two cents.

    blessings.
    Right on time.

    Got any quotes of my "filthy mouth" where I wasn't quoting Jesus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Right on time.

    Got any quotes of my "filthy mouth" where I wasn't quoting Jesus?
    my dear,

    this is your quote:

    "For Jesus to call the Pharisees "whited sepulchres filled with dead men's bones" might be considered "nasty" to some".

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    well my dear, Jesus was perfect. .
    How do you suppose that a man, who was just a man according to you, achieved perfection?
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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