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    What does John 14:21 mean?

    What does John 14:21 mean?
    John 1:40-41 NASB, John 1:49 NASB - 40 One of the two who heard John speak and followed Him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother. 41 He found first his own brother Simon and said to him, "We have found the Messiah" (which translated means Christ). 49 - Nathanael answered Him, "Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel."

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    It means just what it says. If you keep Jesus' commandments. Which are Gods commandments.

    John 15:14
    14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
    (NKJ)



    John 14:21
    21 "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."
    (NKJ)

    John 14:23-24
    23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
    24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
    (NKJ)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    It means just what it says. If you keep Jesus' commandments. Which are Gods commandments.

    John 15:14
    14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
    (NKJ)



    John 14:21
    21 "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."
    (NKJ)

    John 14:23-24
    23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
    24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
    (NKJ)
    Jesus' commandments are God's commandments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    What does John 14:21 mean?
    NT commands are like the fruits of the Spirit i.e. love, joy, peace, patience, faith etc.

    These are attributes that God performs in and thru us. Sinners cannot produce these fruits.

    The great lesson of Christianity is that you are a sinner and incapable of a righteous life.

    When you learn that lesson God gives you love, joy, peace etc. that could never be produced before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    NT commands are like the fruits of the Spirit i.e. love, joy, peace, patience, faith etc.

    These are attributes that God performs in and thru us. Sinners cannot produce these fruits.

    The great lesson of Christianity is that you are a sinner and incapable of a righteous life.

    When you learn that lesson God gives you love, joy, peace etc. that could never be produced before.
    The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
    Thank you Captain obvious. Why is it you can't carry a normal conversation? Because you're a spiritual burnout on works-righteousness. The law is crack and meth and heroine for the faithless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    Thank you Captain obvious. Why is it you can't carry a normal conversation? Because you're a spiritual burnout on works-righteousness. The law is crack and meth and heroine for the faithless.
    I do not know what you are talking about. The fruit of the Spirit is not the same thing as saying the fruits of the Spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    Thank you Captain obvious. Why is it you can't carry a normal conversation? Because you're a spiritual burnout on works-righteousness. The law is crack and meth and heroine for the faithless.
    You need to know Jesus' word.

    Fruit is works.

    Jesus says we know them by their fruit.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    NT commands are like the fruits of the Spirit i.e. love, joy, peace, patience, faith etc.
    That's right. and fruit is works.

    without works your faith is dead.

    Jesus says we know them by their fruit.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    What does John 14:21 mean?
    Who was Jesus speaking to?
    What was Jesus' audience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    You need to know Jesus' word.

    Fruit is works.

    Jesus says we know them by their fruit.
    It's called "the fruit of the Spirit".
    It is the Holy Spirit producing the "fruit".
    No Holy Spirit = No Fruit

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    Quote Originally Posted by beameup View Post
    Who was Jesus speaking to?
    What was Jesus' audience?
    Philip.
    John 1:40-41 NASB, John 1:49 NASB - 40 One of the two who heard John speak and followed Him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother. 41 He found first his own brother Simon and said to him, "We have found the Messiah" (which translated means Christ). 49 - Nathanael answered Him, "Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel."

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    Quote Originally Posted by beameup View Post
    It's called "the fruit of the Spirit".
    It is the Holy Spirit producing the "fruit".
    No Holy Spirit = No Fruit
    That's right, if you have the Spirit, you will produce the fruit.

    Jesus says if you don't produce, you will be burned like chaff.
    Last edited by meshak; December 4th, 2017 at 05:53 AM.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    That's right, if you have the Spirit, you will produce the fruit.
    So you do believe in the God the Father and the Holy Spirit, how about God the Son?

    “He who believes in the Son has eternal life;
    but he who does not obey the Son will not see life,
    but the wrath of God abides on him.”

    John 3:36

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    Quote Originally Posted by beameup View Post
    So you do believe in the God the Father and the Holy Spirit, how about God the Son?
    Of course I do.

    You are mudding the point.

    so typical.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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