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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I don't advocate slandering and smearing people's religion in the name of mine. You feel like your Christian faith is being challenged by Islamic theology, so you demonize it. That's your only defense against Islam, not a logical, spirit filled argument. Just mud slinging and character assassination. That's all you have.

    What a blowhard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I'm a Trinitarian, not a JW and no longer a member of the Bible Student's Society. I became a Trinitarian 8 years ago.
    Ah, closely entangled with JW's. You've been indoctrinated, and should go back to the very beginning....start from scratch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I'm a Trinitarian, not a JW and no longer a member of the Bible Student's Society. I became a Trinitarian 8 years ago.
    In what sense can you be Trinitarian and yet still "similar" to JWs? How's that work?
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    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Ah, closely entangled with JW's. You've been indoctrinated, and should go back to the very beginning....start from scratch.
    Indoctrinated in what? Why would you say that I'm indoctrinated into a particular way of thinking? What are you referring to? Be specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    In what sense can you be Trinitarian and yet still "similar" to JWs? How's that work?
    Don't you read? Are you able to comprehend what you're reading? I was (past-tense), a member of the Bible Students Society. Not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post

    What a blowhard.
    Yeah, you got blown out of the water, you warmongering demon. You have nothing but insults and childish antics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityJerk View Post
    Yeah, you got blown out of the water, you warmongering demon.
    Now watch the other face of Mr. TwoFaced ......
    You have nothing but insults and childish antics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Now watch the other face of Mr. TwoFaced ......
    I have more than insults, you apparently don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I don't advocate slandering and smearing people's religion in the name of mine. You feel like your Christian faith is being challenged by Islamic theology, so you demonize it. That's your only defense against Islam, not a logical, spirit filled argument. Just mud slinging and character assassination. That's all you have.
    The best defense against Islam and all idol 'faiths':

    John 14:6

    6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

    Quite an exclusive claim isnt it.

    Guess that leaves Mohamed here along with his followers and all other adherents of lies:

    Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

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    Proverbs 3:5-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    The best defense against Islam and all idol 'faiths':

    John 14:6

    6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

    Quite an exclusive claim isnt it.

    Guess that leaves Mohamed here along with his followers and all other adherents of lies:

    Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
    Well first of all, your first citation doesn't indicate how people get to the father. Is it through Christianity? Easter Eggs and Christmas Trees? There's no indication in that verse, in what way people benefit from Christ's work and reach heaven. So you've made an unnecessary, groundless assertion.

    Your second proof-text is directed at the Jews who had rejected Jesus as Messiah. He was telling them that in the future the kingdom would be taken away from them and gentiles would be sitting by Abraham and the prophets in heaven and not them. What does that have to do with Muslims going to hell? Nothing. With satanic glee , you cite the verses describing the suffering of the wicked, however I'd be careful if I were you, because you might be among them:

    Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work lawlessness.

    Lawlessness = Anomois/Greek. Lawless. Many so called "Christians", that emphatically call Jesus "Lord Lord" and perform great works in His name, will also be gnashing their teeth outside the gates of the New Jerusalem. So workout your salvation in fear and trembling and make your calling and election sure, lest you fail and perish, with those "pesky Muslims", you so easily consign to hell. Right there with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityJerk View Post
    Well first of all, your first citation doesn't indicate how people get to the father. Is it through Christianity? Easter Eggs and Christmas Trees?
    "Easter Eggs and Christmas Trees".
    Your arguments are so hokey, they are good for little more than mocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityJerk View Post
    Indoctrinated in what? Why would you say that I'm indoctrinated into a particular way of thinking? What are you referring to? Be specific.
    You admitted you had been a member of the Bible Student's Society. Are you claiming there was no indoctrination going on there? There was no association with Watch Tower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityJerk View Post
    Hello everyone

    I was given an infraction by Sherman, for posting the following in the politics section:



    The reason given was spamming and "False Propaganda". I can understand why staff would send me a warning, informing me that I can't post that many links in one of my posts. If your rules are that we can't post links or more than a certain amount of links, then I broke the rules. It's as simple as that. I didn't know there was a cap on the amount of links I can add to a post. Not knowing the rules or the law isn't an excuse for me breaking them, but nonetheless, one can also grant me a little mercy and give me a warning that if I do that again, I will receive an infraction. No warning was given, just an infraction for spamming and "false propaganda".

    I don't see how what I posted is false and if that is now the new standard of determining whether one receives an infraction or not, then how can we engage in an honest debate on this forum, when our opinions can willy-nilly be labeled "false propaganda" and penalized? Is this a forum for honest discourse and open debate, or are certain views here barred from the discussion? My supposed "False Propaganda" consists of American generals/high ranking members of your military and politicians, admitting that your government has directly and indirectly supported Islamic extremists. Through its "regime change projects"/wars in the middle east and elsewhere, millions of people have had their lives destroyed. They've lost their lives, their homes, their livelihoods, their dignity.

    I presented the evidence for that and if someone disagrees with what I presented, they're always free to respond with an opposing argument, refuting everything that I've said. I welcome a thorough analysis and critique of my views, and I'm not offended or angered when someone debunks my arguments. I actually appreciate it when someone presents evidence that refutes my position, because it allows me the opportunity to embrace the truth on a particular issue or at least come closer to it. Understand? So, why was I penalized by one of your staff members for simply presenting an argument, with references/links to a few YouTube videos? Thanks.
    I reckon it's because you're a commie. True, comrade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    You admitted you had been a member of the Bible Student's Society. Are you claiming there was no indoctrination going on there? There was no association with Watch Tower?
    There's "indoctrination" in all religions and sects. Every denomination in Christendom has its method of indoctrinating its members, that doesn't imply that a person can't reject their once held beliefs and adopt other beliefs. What's your "indoctrination" ? What denomination or group are you a part of? Or perhaps you're a lone-ranger, picking and choosing whatever you feel is correct, hence that's your personal bias and doctrine. Everyone is bias and indoctrinated in one way or another, that doesn't automatically render one's beliefs incorrect. Your criticism of my views on the bases of me being indoctrinated, is flawed and of no substance.

    Arguments stand or fall on their own merits.

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