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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You blasphemy speaking ill of Paul's words in the Bible.
    Putting Paul on the pedestal is not blasphemy?

    I know it is.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iouae View Post
    Many cannot reconcile James with Paul.

    Did Christ have faith? Yes.
    Did Christ also have works? Yes.

    Did Paul have faith? Yes.
    Did Paul have works? Yes.

    For someone supposedly against works, Paul worked pretty hard, and "boasted" about these.
    I haven't heard this before. I love it what you showed.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Paul went through hell for the sake of the Gospel. He traveled over 10,000 miles for over 20 years. There are monuments to Paul that can be seen today up along the Mediterranean coast as a tribute to his dedication to Christ and his Gospel. Paul had a right to boast, but I don't think that he did to glorify himself. Everything was for the sake of the Gospel.
    Jesus is not divided and he did not give two gospels in opposition of each other.

    That is ludicrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Putting Paul on the pedestal is not blasphemy?

    I know it is.
    Paul's words are scripture and God breathed. You do blasphemy.

    You falsely judge Paul and you think I care what you think of me.

    You say you are not saved, and I believe you on that one.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Jesus does not advocate, "brilliant faith."

    Jesus tells us to have childlike faith. Children are not brilliant.

    You are right, we are not such good students. That's why he should not sends confused messages.
    I have a rule reading Paul, and when somebody quotes Paul. I ask myself, have I read the whole book, because Paul always has a train of thought, and individual quotes can sound like they are going against the whole train of thought.

    Paul tries to tell us that the law has a purpose, like a screwdriver has a purpose, and that purpose is not to get us made righteous or saved. Using the law for this purpose would be like using a screwdriver as a hammer - something which I have tried to do when no hammer is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Paul's words are scripture and God breathed. You do blasphemy.

    You falsely judge Paul and you think I care what you think of me.

    You say you are not saved, and I believe you on that one.
    This is classic poor attack.

    Your putting Paul on the pedestal is like Catholics putting Mary on the pedestal.

    You lie saying I claim not to saved.

    What I say is that no one knows until Jesus Judges.

    I have said it repeatedly the same thing yet you choose to misrepresent my word.

    Your bitterness and hatefulness is showing.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iouae View Post
    I have a rule reading Paul, and when somebody quotes Paul. I ask myself, have I read the whole book, because Paul always has a train of thought, and individual quotes can sound like they are going against the whole train of thought.

    Paul tries to tell us that the law has a purpose, like a screwdriver has a purpose, and that purpose is not to get us made righteous or saved. Using the law for this purpose would be like using a screwdriver as a hammer - something which I have tried to do when no hammer is available.
    I understand what you are saying but his word is being used to divide His followers.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    I pick what is noble, clearly of the HS like fruit of Spirit.

    Paul wrote that but many Christians disregard it.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    This is classic poor attack.

    Your putting Paul on the pedestal is like Catholics putting Mary on the pedestal.

    You lie saying I claim not to saved.

    What I say is that no one knows until Jesus Judges.

    I have said it repeatedly the same thing yet you choose to misrepresent my word.

    Your bitterness and hatefulness is showing.
    You are the one who followed me around tonight saying hateful things.

    You are the one who attacks me for saying I am saved. You say you don't know if you are saved. You did say you were not.

    You say terrible things about Paul. You prove you are not right in the heart and mind.

    You are every false thing you have ever said about me, and more.

    You lie about me and say I do with Paul what Catholics do with Mary. I do not make statues of Paul and burn candles and incense it and bow to it. I don't pray to him. I don't say he is Co Mediator. You just say anything and you don't care about what is truth at all.
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    Fruit of Spirit is so high standard and no one can achieve it. It is life long endeavor.

    That's why no one should boast to be sinless and saved.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    I will not userp Jesus' authority to self claim to be saved unlike you guys.

    You better watch out for your arrogance.
    I agree that you definitely cannot claim to be saved.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You are the one who followed me around tonight saying hateful things.
    It is so convenient excuse of your hateful and bitterness.

    I gave you a peace offering many times to ease your harassing behavior.

    You harass everyone who does not agree with you like you just did to CR.

    You are too sensitive when it comes to yourself. You are too quick to be offended when someone disagrees with you.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Fruit of Spirit is so high standard and no one can achieve it. It is life long endeavor.

    That's why no one should boast to be sinless and saved.
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    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    GT,

    I even applaused your brilliant quote about grace only Christians competing not being faithful.

    That's one of many things I tried to disregard your behavior.

    But you seem so hard harted that no one can reach you if they don't agree with you 100 percent.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    BTW,

    I still think that was hilarious and brilliant.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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