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    Scripture. What is considered Scripture?

    Shalom.

    Scripture. What is considered Scripture?

    Shalom.

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    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

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    The 73 books of the Christian Bible.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    The 73 books of the Christian Bible.
    After the Lutheran and Catholic canons were defined by Luther (c. 1534) and Trent (8 April 1546) respectively, early Protestant editions of the Bible (notably the Luther Bible in German and 1611 King James Version in English) did not omit these books, but placed them in a separate Apocrypha section apart from the Old Testament...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_apocrypha

    The apocrypha has never been considered as scripture

    To the op there are 66 books of scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_apocrypha

    The apocrypha has never been considered as scripture

    To the op there are 66 books of scripture.
    This picture of the table of contents of the 1611 KJV might help your;
    http://sceti.library.upenn.edu/sceti...agePosition=36

    And if you look up the canon from the Council of Carthage of 396/7 that will be helpful too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_apocrypha

    The apocrypha has never been considered as scripture

    To the op there are 66 books of scripture.
    Two things:
    1.) What basis determines Scripture as canonical?

    2.) Why were the the 7 apocryphal books removed from Protestant versions?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    The 73 books of the Christian Bible.
    That is more than 66.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    That is more than 66.
    It's seven more than 66.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    It's seven more than 66.
    Okay.

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    “Scripture,” the translation of the Koine Greek word graphs, simply means writings. At the time the NT books were written, it referred to secular and religious documents.

    Jesus quoted scripture not found in modern bibles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2003cobra View Post
    “Scripture,” the translation of the Koine Greek word graphs, simply means writings. At the time the NT books were written, it referred to secular and religious documents.

    Jesus quoted scripture not found in modern bibles.
    Graphe — Apple spell check is far too helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2003cobra View Post
    “Scripture,” the translation of the Koine Greek word graphs, simply means writings. At the time the NT books were written, it referred to secular and religious documents.

    Jesus quoted scripture not found in modern bibles.
    Quote Originally Posted by 2003cobra View Post
    Graphe — Apple spell check is far too helpful.
    So what are you saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    So what are you saying?
    I am saying that people in modern churches see the word “Scripture” and immediately think “Bible,” and that is inconsistent with what Scripture (graphe) meant in the first century.

    I hope that clarifies.

    The ubiquitous mistranslation of 1 Timothy 3 contributes to this. A better translation is “Every Scripture inspired by God is profitable...” It is the same form in Greek as “every good tree bears...” (which was not mistranslated “every tree is good and bears...”

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    Jacob, why do you have 3+ threads, started around the same time, asking the same questions (the books of the Bible)?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2003cobra View Post
    “Scripture,” the translation of the Koine Greek word graphs, simply means writings. At the time the NT books were written, it referred to secular and religious documents.

    Jesus quoted scripture not found in modern bibles.
    Quote Originally Posted by jsanford108 View Post
    Jacob, why do you have 3+ threads, started around the same time, asking the same questions (the books of the Bible)?


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    Shalom.

    Different related questions.

    Shalom.

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    Jacob are you asking what is considered scripture by different churches? or are you asking what makes a writing considered scripture?

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