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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Jesus was without sin, but was willing to become sin for us, 2 Corinthians 5:21.
    Is it possible to not sin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Is it possible to not sin?
    As long as you are in your Adamic body you will sin.

    Remember, the law is spiritual and searches the desires and the intent of the heart, Hebrews 4:12. Are all of your thoughts without sin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    As long as you are in your Adamic body you will sin.

    Remember, the law is spiritual and searches the desires and the intent of the heart, Hebrews 4:12. Are all of your thoughts without sin?
    I am to obey God in word, thought, and deed.

    You keep people in sin, which is different from recognizing that you have sinned, and your need for a Savior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I am to obey God in word, thought, and deed.

    You keep people in sin, which is different from recognizing that you have sinned, and your need for a Savior.

    You are to obey God in word, thought and deed and at the same time confessing that you are failing miserably, John 1:8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You are to obey God in word, thought and deed and at the same time confessing that you are failing miserably, John 1:8.
    To admit that you have failed is different from having success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    To admit that you have failed is different from having success.

    Paul never taught that he could obey the law. Paul struggled with sin just like everyone else, Romans Chapter 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Those who are not obedient to God are not of God.
    We don't obey our way into God's family. We believe our way into Him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    It is not about performance.
    Did you read the verse? It IS about our LORD performing HIS GOOD WORK in us. So, yes, it absolutely IS about performance....God's performance, not man's. God is conforming us into the image of the Son.

    Philippians 1:6
    Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    We don't obey our way into God's family. We believe our way into Him.
    Which Jacob does neither.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Paul never taught that he could obey the law. Paul struggled with sin just like everyone else, Romans Chapter 7.
    No. Paul obeyed commandments of God. He did sin, at least before becoming a believer. Was he fulfilling the law or something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    We don't obey our way into God's family. We believe our way into Him.
    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Did you read the verse? It IS about our LORD performing HIS GOOD WORK in us. So, yes, it absolutely IS about performance....God's performance, not man's. God is conforming us into the image of the Son.

    Philippians 1:6
    Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
    You cannot believe your way into anything other than trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    You cannot believe your way into anything other than trouble.
    That just shows me you remain outside....a street urchin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    That just shows me you remain outside....a street urchin.
    Just believe. Don't believe into something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    No. Paul obeyed commandments of God. He did sin, at least before becoming a believer. Was he fulfilling the law or something else.
    Before Paul was a Christian he was a Pharisee, Philippians 3:4-6.

    The law is the nature and character of God. To say that you can keep the law is to say that you are as righteous as God, which is blasphemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Just believe. Don't believe into something.
    I did.

    I believed into the body of Christ. When I believed, I was created IN HIM....begotten through the Gospel.

    1 Corinthians 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

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