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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Obedience is not sin. Disobedience is sin.
    Why are you so concerned about obedience? Your very best obedience is sin, "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.

    You need to accept your sinnerhood. God does not accept the obedience of sinners. Better find some other way to be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Why are you so concerned about obedience? Your very best obedience is sin, "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.

    You need to accept your sinnerhood. God does not accept the obedience of sinners. Better find some other way to be saved.
    I already am saved. I am talking to you about obedience because you do not seem to accept that God wants you to be obedient to Him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Why are you so concerned about obedience? Your very best obedience is sin, "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.

    You need to accept your sinnerhood. God does not accept the obedience of sinners. Better find some other way to be saved.
    You both the same, thinking that its something man does that gets you saved !
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    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You both the same, thinking that its something man does that gets you saved !
    Everyone that was saved in the New Testament were saved because they responded to the Gospel. No response is a response. Only a blind fool would think other wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I already am saved. I am talking to you about obedience because you do not seem to accept that God wants you to be obedient to Him.
    If you are trusting in your obedience you are not saved. God knows that we are sinners and not able to be obedient. What God wants is for us to believe on his Son Jesus Christ and be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    If you are trusting in your obedience you are not saved. God knows that we are sinners and not able to be obedient. What God wants is for us to believe on his Son Jesus Christ and be saved.
    You are correct except that if you are saved you have no excuse to not be obedient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    You are correct except that if you are saved you have no excuse to not be obedient.

    It is the work of the Holy Spirit working in your life that will produce the Christian life. Ephesians 2:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I already am saved. I am talking to you about obedience because you do not seem to accept that God wants you to be obedient to Him.
    God wants us to walk by faith....trusting in Him to perform His work in us. Those who are IN HIM are confident in His performing....not in our performance.

    Philippians 1:6
    Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Everyone that was saved in the New Testament were saved because they responded to the Gospel. No response is a response. Only a blind fool would think other wise.
    Neither one of you believe in the saving blood of Jesus Christ.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
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    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    God wants us to walk by faith....trusting in Him to perform His work in us. Those who are IN HIM are confident in His performing....not in our performance.

    Philippians 1:6
    Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

    Amen.

    "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God has ordained that we should walk in them" Ephesians 2:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    It is the work of the Holy Spirit working in your life that will produce the Christian life. Ephesians 2:10.
    Those who are not obedient to God are not of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    God wants us to walk by faith....trusting in Him to perform His work in us. Those who are IN HIM are confident in His performing....not in our performance.

    Philippians 1:6
    Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
    It is not about performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Those who are not obedient to God are not of God.
    Not exactly true. Christians are sinners, saved sinners.

    "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" 1 John 1:8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Not exactly true. Christians are sinners, saved sinners.

    "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" 1 John 1:8.
    Is Jesus the one who is born of God that (who) does not sin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Is Jesus the one who is born of God that (who) does not sin?

    Jesus was without sin, but was willing to become sin for us, 2 Corinthians 5:21.

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