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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Is receiving Jesus obedience?

    What does God consider to be obedience?

    What does God want you to obey?

    Christians live their lives before God as sinners, saved sinners.

    Paul referred to himself as "The Chief of Sinners" 1 Timothy 1:15. He also said that "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Christians live their lives before God as sinners, saved sinners.

    Paul referred to himself as "The Chief of Sinners" 1 Timothy 1:15. He also said that "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.
    Are people who have sinned supposed to obey God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Are people who have sinned supposed to obey God?

    All that have come to Christ as repentant sinners to be saved by him are given the Holy Spirit.

    It is the Holy Spirit working in the life of the Christian that makes him want to live the Christian life and to be an effective witness for Christ and his Gospel. NOT THE LAW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    All that have come to Christ as repentant sinners to be saved by him are given the Holy Spirit.

    It is the Holy Spirit working in the life of the Christian that makes him want to live the Christian life and to be an effective witness for Christ and his Gospel. NOT THE LAW.
    God wants us to obey or observe His Commandments. Jesus taught that to be great in the kingdom of heaven one must keep and teach the Commandments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    God wants us to obey or observe His Commandments. Jesus taught that to be great in the kingdom of heaven one must keep and teach the Commandments.

    I don't think that you believe Paul.

    "The letter (law) kills, but the Spirit gives life" 2 Corinthians 3:6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I don't think that you believe Paul.

    "The letter (law) kills, but the Spirit gives life" 2 Corinthians 3:6.
    I do.

    I discovered that even Paul spoke about obedience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    All that have come to Christ as repentant sinners to be saved by him are given the Holy Spirit.

    It is the Holy Spirit working in the life of the Christian that makes him want to live the Christian life and to be an effective witness for Christ and his Gospel. NOT THE LAW.
    Your witness for Christ is that sinners He shed His Blood for are unwashed in His Blood and lost ! Dont you believe and teach that ?
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I do.

    I discovered that even Paul spoke about obedience.

    Your obedience is not worth much seeing that you are a sinner, Romans 3:23.

    In the judgment your obedience will disappear in a puff of smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Your witness for Christ is that sinners He shed His Blood for are unwashed in His Blood and lost ! Dont you believe and teach that ?

    Because of the Gospel of Jesus Christ God sees ALL THINGS as perfect and complete in his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:20. However, nothing is yours until it is received by faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Your obedience is not worth much seeing that you are a sinner, Romans 3:23.

    In the judgment your obedience will disappear in a puff of smoke.
    Incorrect.

    I believe that you said that you are a sinner. Sinners are not supposed to be sinners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Because of the Gospel of Jesus Christ God sees ALL THINGS as perfect and complete in his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:20. However, nothing is yours until it is received by faith.
    So you really dont have a witness for Christ but against Him !
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    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Incorrect.

    I believe that you said that you are a sinner. Sinners are not supposed to be sinners.
    Paul said, "For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23.

    There are two kinds of sinners, saved sinners and lost sinners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Paul said, "For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23.

    There are two kinds of sinners, saved sinners and lost sinners.
    Do you know anyone who used to be a sinner or is a sinner and knows that they are supposed to obey God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Do you know anyone who used to be a sinner or is a sinner and knows that they are supposed to obey God?

    Everyone is born with a conscious. By the age of 6 or 7 we all know right from wrong and become aware that there is a God and we should not sin against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Everyone is born with a conscious. By the age of 6 or 7 we all know right from wrong and become aware that there is a God and we should not sin against him.
    Obedience is not sin. Disobedience is sin.

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