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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post

    I think you're in denial, fool.
    I'm in Reality. Moore's an idiot, he got kicked off the Supreme Court of Alabama for being an idiot.
    He probably did date high school girls in his 30's. And being Alabama nobody cares.
    We did the whole Duck Dynasty thing here not too long ago.
    When you do a hit piece on a sleeze bag right before an election.
    All people see is the hit piece, and not the sleeze bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Do you think Moore is innocent?
    Don't know, all I can see is the frame job.


    You think his interviews or those with his representatives were convincing?
    Didn't watch any.
    What does it matter how old the allegations were,
    When they come up after a contentious primary and after he's been a Chief Justice then it smacks of politics.
    if he assaulted teenage girls he has no business being anywhere but prison and should have been there before he was even elected.
    Agreed, But, just like we saw with Trump as soon as he's the Candidate we see all sorts of salacious allegations right before the vote, that could have been brought up sooner, that then disappear after he wins.
    This is our new Politics.
    And it undermines all the people that are really abused.
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    For Roy Moore’s insistent defenders: Here’s why now


    Of course it’s not a coincidence that the women came forward just as Moore is seeking election to the Senate — but not in the way Moore means.

    Moore has been a controversial figure in American politics for some time but mostly at the edges. His fight to preserve a monument to the Ten Commandments in a state building 15 years ago gained him national attention — but not necessarily national importance. Now, he’s seeking election to the Senate, one of 100 people who make up one half of the legislative branch of government. It’s a much more important fight nationally, and, as a result, has attracted much more attention.

    There’s a reason that people with skeletons in their closets are loath to seek elected office: Once they do, the scrutiny that is a natural part of the campaign process threatens to expose those skeletons. This is less true for lower-level elected positions, where there is less media attention and fewer resources. For something like the Senate or the presidency, though, that scrutiny is both intense — and should be expected.

    In this case, reporter Stephanie McCrummen was in Alabama as part of The Post’s coverage of the race. She explained the genesis of the story to NPR last week.

    I was in Alabama actually reporting another story on Roy Moore supporters, a story aiming to understand, you know, the basis of his support in the state. And it was at the end of a long conversation with someone there that these allegations surfaced. So none of these women — none of the women in this story sought out The Washington Post. No one promoted this story to The Washington Post. And all of the women went through quite a long process deciding whether to come forward.


    There’s a more subtle aspect to “why now” that’s worth pointing out. Why did the story drop last week? Because that was when the story was ready, after dozens of interviews and a great deal of verification, down to the date of court appearances 38 years ago.

    Why now? Because that’s when an important story about a man who is right now seeking election to the Senate was unearthed, researched and vetted. It’s no more complicated than that.

    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

    ― Theodore Roosevelt

    Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem

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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    Don't know, all I can see is the frame job.




    Didn't watch any.

    When they come up after a contentious primary and after he's been a Chief Justice then it smacks of politics.

    Agreed, But, just like we saw with Trump as soon as he's the Candidate we see all sorts of salacious allegations right before the vote, that could have been brought up sooner, that then disappear after he wins.
    This is our new Politics.
    And it undermines all the people that are really abused.
    Then watch the interview...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    Don't know, all I can see is the frame job.
    Your saying it's a frame job doesn't make it a frame job.

    Didn't watch any.
    Why don't you now?

    When they come up after a contentious primary and after he's been a Chief Justice then it smacks of politics.

    Agreed, But, just like we saw with Trump as soon as he's the Candidate we see all sorts of salacious allegations right before the vote, that could have been brought up sooner, that then disappear after he wins.
    This is our new Politics.
    And it undermines all the people that are really abused.

    You're missing something here. It was Sunday, Oct. 15 when Alyssa Milano sent out her tweet saying if someone had been sexually assaulted or harassed, to retweet with the hashtag #metoo. Two days later, the hashtag had been used 825,000 times. I have no idea what the number is now. According to FaceBook, 45% are friends with someone who has posted "me too."

    This was all very much in the public consciousness when the WaPo story broke on Nov. 9. Many women finding the courage to say what had happened to them in the past. You can call this a frame job. I call it timing. The intersection of women telling their stories - and the Moore campaign.

    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    In this case, reporter Stephanie McCrummen was in Alabama as part of The Post’s coverage of the race. She explained the genesis of the story to NPR last week.

    I was in Alabama actually reporting another story on Roy Moore supporters, a story aiming to understand, you know, the basis of his support in the state. And it was at the end of a long conversation with someone there that these allegations surfaced. So none of these women — none of the women in this story sought out The Washington Post. No one promoted this story to The Washington Post. And all of the women went through quite a long process deciding whether to come forward.


    Ah, thanks. That's helpful.

    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    Now comes Roy Moore who might really be a creep but he was the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court TWICE (after getting removed once)
    Twice. Once for defying the First Amendment, and once for defying the Supreme Court.

    so nobody is going to convince me that they just crawled out from under a rock and realized that the Roy Moore that is running for Senate is THAT Roy Moore they dated in high school. If the allegations are true then all these women just happened to wait until one month before the election to come forward.

    When it would do the most damage.
    Turns out the 14-YO he molested had discussed it with others at the time. So that's not going to help him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Do you think Weinstein is guilty?

    THAT'S DIFFERENT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Do you think Weinstein is guilty?
    I heard the undercover tape about the boob being touched.
    Weinstein isn't running for Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    Don't know, all I can see is the frame job.

    Didn't watch any.
    Come on, fool. At lease do your due diligence if you're going to create a threat casting doubt on Moore's accusers. See for yourself if he and his lawyer pass the sniff test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    For Roy Moore’s insistent defenders: Here’s why now


    Of course it’s not a coincidence that the women came forward just as Moore is seeking election to the Senate — but not in the way Moore means.

    Moore has been a controversial figure in American politics for some time but mostly at the edges. His fight to preserve a monument to the Ten Commandments in a state building 15 years ago gained him national attention — but not necessarily national importance. Now, he’s seeking election to the Senate, one of 100 people who make up one half of the legislative branch of government. It’s a much more important fight nationally, and, as a result, has attracted much more attention.

    There’s a reason that people with skeletons in their closets are loath to seek elected office: Once they do, the scrutiny that is a natural part of the campaign process threatens to expose those skeletons. This is less true for lower-level elected positions, where there is less media attention and fewer resources. For something like the Senate or the presidency, though, that scrutiny is both intense — and should be expected.

    In this case, reporter Stephanie McCrummen was in Alabama as part of The Post’s coverage of the race. She explained the genesis of the story to NPR last week.

    I was in Alabama actually reporting another story on Roy Moore supporters, a story aiming to understand, you know, the basis of his support in the state. And it was at the end of a long conversation with someone there that these allegations surfaced. So none of these women — none of the women in this story sought out The Washington Post. No one promoted this story to The Washington Post. And all of the women went through quite a long process deciding whether to come forward.


    There’s a more subtle aspect to “why now” that’s worth pointing out. Why did the story drop last week? Because that was when the story was ready, after dozens of interviews and a great deal of verification, down to the date of court appearances 38 years ago.

    Why now? Because that’s when an important story about a man who is right now seeking election to the Senate was unearthed, researched and vetted. It’s no more complicated than that.
    He was a Supreme Court Chief Justice of Alabama. So the "Researched and Vetted" argument is dead in the water.
    He's been there and back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Then watch the interview...
    Which one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Come on, fool. At lease do your due diligence if you're going to create a threat casting doubt on Moore's accusers. See for yourself if he and his lawyer pass the sniff test.
    Gimme your best link. I'll watch it because you recomend it.
    That's the respect that being on this board with you for a decade earns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    Gimme your best link. I'll watch it because you recomend it.
    That's the respect that being on this board with you for a decade earns.


    Oh, fool.

    There is the original interview with Moore:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER59sO7UK6I

    And the interview with Moore's lawyer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqNeTdbl9Qk

    and the Hannity followup after the interview:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avgQvIYvQg
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post




    Two more women have come forward raising the number of accusers to 7 - the only reason conservatives continue to support him is because he is one of their own, if he was a Democrat they'd be demanding swift justice!

    The ban from the Mall for harassing teenage girls in the 1980's takes this beyond the "he said, she said" stage - it confirms that as a 30 year old he was "cruising" for teenage girls and making unwanted advances!
    When did these police officers give these quotes? Before the story broke or after?

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