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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Your false God just fell flat on its face. "WHOSOEVER that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
    You deny that scripture teaching that those Christ died for are still lost, thats unbelief !
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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You deny that scripture teaching that those Christ died for are still lost, thats unbelief !
    Your false Calvinist God is making a fool out of you.

    The word of God says... "The free gift (of salvation) came upon ALL MEN unto justification of life" Romans 5:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Your false Calvinist God is making a fool out of you.

    The word of God says... "The free gift (of salvation) came upon ALL MEN unto justification of life" Romans 5:18.
    You teach that sinners Christ death Justified are still lost and condemned.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You teach that sinners Christ death Justified are still lost and condemned.
    God does not save nor justify any one that does not call upon him, Romans 10:13. No response to the Gospel is a response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    God does not save nor justify any one that does not call upon him, Romans 10:13. No response to the Gospel is a response.
    Again:

    You teach that sinners Christ death Justified are still lost and condemned.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Again:

    You teach that sinners Christ death Justified are still lost and condemned.
    That is a lie.

    Pate believes as several of us do: Christ's death did not automatically save nor justify the lost -- that happens only when the lost have faith in what He did, as Paul taught. THEN they're forgiven and justified.

    Stop lying.
    Not a single cluster of living fruit was, or ever will be, harvested from the tree of legality. Law can only produce “dead works,” from which we need to have conscience purged just as much as from “wicked works.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    That is a lie.

    Pate believes as several of us do: Christ's death did not automatically save nor justify the lost -- that happens only when the lost have faith in what He did, as Paul taught. THEN they're forgiven and justified.

    Stop lying.

    Its hard to believe that someone can call themselves a Christian and believe that God predestinates people to hell before they are born. How can you have faith in a God such as this?

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    Only an evil person would believe in such a demon.
    Not a single cluster of living fruit was, or ever will be, harvested from the tree of legality. Law can only produce “dead works,” from which we need to have conscience purged just as much as from “wicked works.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Only an evil person would believe in such a demon.

    All religions dishonor God and insult his Son Jesus Christ. I guess that is why the road to hell is broad, Matthew 7:13, 14.

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    There is no hope in the God of Calvinism. Who would want to spend eternity with a God that sent billions of people to hell before they were born? And who could possibly have faith in a Jesus that could not atone for the sins of the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    There is no hope in the God of Calvinism. Who would want to spend eternity with a God that sent billions of people to hell before they were born? And who could possibly have faith in a Jesus that could not atone for the sins of the world?
    God Justifies people by the blood of His Son Rom 5:9

    Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

    You teach that those He shed His Blood for perish, are lost !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    God Justifies people by the blood of His Son Rom 5:9

    Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

    You teach that those He shed His Blood for perish, are lost !

    Not only are Christian justified by his blood, they are also justified by his life, his death and his resurrection. This is why Calvinism is worthless. We are complete in Christ, Colossians 2:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Not only are Christian justified by his blood, they are also justified by his life, his death and his resurrection. This is why Calvinism is worthless. We are complete in Christ, Colossians 2:10.
    You deny Justification by the Blood of Christ !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You deny Justification by the Blood of Christ !
    You deny salvation by grace through faith. You're going to Hell.
    Not a single cluster of living fruit was, or ever will be, harvested from the tree of legality. Law can only produce “dead works,” from which we need to have conscience purged just as much as from “wicked works.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    You deny salvation by grace through faith. You're going to Hell.
    To deny salvation by grace (God's unmerited favor towards fallen man) is to deny the Gospel. To deny the Gospel is to deny the saving work of Christ. To deny the Gospel is to sentence yourself to hell.

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