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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You apparently don't believe that Jesus is Lord.

    "I said therefore unto YOU, that you will die in your sins: for if you don't believe that I am he (Lord or God) YOU SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS" John 8:24.
    Truth:4 Pate:0 The word "he" is not even in the original. So it doesn't mean Lord or God, even though I am fully persuaded that He is both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishrovmen View Post
    Truth:4 Pate:0 The word "he" is not even in the original. So it doesn't mean Lord or God, even though I am fully persuaded that He is both.
    My Bible says "HE". If it is not "HE" then who else would it be?

    You strain at a gnat and swallow a camel, Matthew 23:24.

    If you truly believed that Jesus is Lord then you would have to believe that he has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and has reconciled us and the whole world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. Your Calvinist God will not allow you to believe that, so you will die in your sins, John 8:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    My Bible says "HE". If it is not "HE" then who else would it be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishrovmen View Post
    Exodus 3:14
    I think that your whole problem is that you cannot accept the fact that Jesus is Lord. If you believed that Jesus is Lord and has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and in doing so has reconciled us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. You would not need Calvinism.

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    Post #16.
    If you were able to tead and understand what people post, you wouldn't need Calvinism either
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishrovmen View Post
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    If you were able to tead and understand what people post, you wouldn't need Calvinism either
    I understand you completely. You are a Gospel rejecting, Christ denying, lost sinner that has embraced the doctrine of a heretic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I understand you completely. You are a Gospel rejecting, Christ denying, lost sinner that has embraced the doctrine of a heretic.
    I've noticed for many years that anyone who even asks you a question, let alone disagrees with you, is labeled a Catholic or Calvinist or "void of the Holy Spirit" or lost or blind etc.
    No surprise there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I understand you completely. You are a Gospel rejecting, Christ denying, lost sinner that has embraced the doctrine of a heretic.
    You teach that sinners Christ shed His Blood for are lost and unredeemed. Thats Christ denying !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You teach that sinners Christ shed His Blood for are lost and unredeemed. Thats Christ denying !
    You continue to make false accusations. Jesus has ALREADY reconciled the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. This means that sin, death and the devil have ALREADY been defeated.

    You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You continue to make false accusations. Jesus has ALREADY reconciled the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. This means that sin, death and the devil have ALREADY been defeated.

    You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith.
    You know you believe and teach that sinners Christ died for are still unredeemed and lost!
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You know you believe and teach that sinners Christ died for are still unredeemed and lost!
    Only a blind fool would reject the Gospel that reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

    You are predestinated to go to hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Only a blind fool would reject the Gospel that reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

    You are predestinated to go to hell.
    You don't believe in Christ. You deny His Blood saved tbem He died for.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You don't believe in Christ. You deny His Blood saved tbem He died for.
    God's word refutes your false Calvinist God.

    "God was in Christ reconciling the WORLD unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    God's word refutes your false Calvinist God.

    "God was in Christ reconciling the WORLD unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19.
    You deny the reconciliation by Christ,s Death teaching they are still lost and condemned !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You deny the reconciliation by Christ,s Death teaching they are still lost and condemned !
    Your false God just fell flat on its face. "WHOSOEVER that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

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