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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosixx View Post

    Sorry, I don't see it that way. You are insincere inasmuch as you don't want the real truth and are only looking for an alteative explanation for Jesus Christ. Your mind is made up and snapped shut. You have proven that as well.



    Insincerity will always do that sort of thing especially with the unborn of God. Ergo, I don't believe you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosixx View Post
    Pentecost = 47 verses
    Samaria and Eunuch = 37
    Saul from 2 chapters = 34
    Cornelius = Acts 10-48 Acts 11-14 Acts 15-3 Total = 65

    Why so many?
    Cornelius is an example of what kind of Gentiles/people who are saved, and how.

    Cornelius, before he was saved, he feared God and did what was right.

    He also was saved before a water baptism AND got water baptized after he was saved, as we are all to do.

    Don't go against the scriptures as Danoh and others do; for they misunderstand about no works to mean 'don't obey'. They misunderstand about Paul when he says 'no works', for Paul is speaking about no purification/ceremonial works.

    In addition, don't misunderstand about water baptism. You are right that we are supposed to do it, and Danoh and others here are wrong---but don't stubbornly preach what your church's false doctrines say about water baptism. Water baptism can be done before or after one is saved, and it is supposed to be done.
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    It is so pathetically sad that there are those who misunderstand Paul as saying believe and don't obey to get saved!!!

    Paul would not ever say such a thing.

    We are to obey to get saved, and to stay saved.

    We just don't have to do the purification/ceremonial works anymore.

    We still have to obey God; we just don't have to get circumcised in the flesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Yikes.

    Confusion abounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Cornelius is an example of what kind of Gentiles/people who are saved, and how.

    Cornelius, before he was saved, he feared God and did what was right.

    He also was saved before a water baptism AND got water baptized after he was saved, as we are all to do.

    Don't go against the scriptures as Danoh and others do; for they misunderstand about no works to mean 'don't obey'. They misunderstand about Paul when he says 'no works', for Paul is speaking about no purification/ceremonial works.

    In addition, don't misunderstand about water baptism. You are right that we are supposed to do it, and Danoh and others here are wrong---but don't stubbornly preach what your church's false doctrines say about water baptism. Water baptism can be done before or after one is saved, and it is supposed to be done.
    Nope - that's just YOUR mis-read of where I am coming from.

    But Romans 5:6-8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosixx View Post
    I would suggest to you they are Jesus' word.

    Jn. 16:12 I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

    1 Cor. 14:37 If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord. 38 If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.

    I recognize what is of Jesus, friend.

    Most of them are of Jesus clearly.
    If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Nope - that's just YOUR mis-read of where I am coming from.

    But Romans 5:6-8.
    No. Your mere denial and opinion means nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    No. Your mere denial and opinion means nothing.
    And I am just fine with your feeling that way, as neither you, nor I, are the issue.

    Christ ALONE...is.

    Rom. 5:6-8 towards you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    And I am just fine with your feeling that way, as neither you, nor I, are the issue.

    Christ ALONE...is.

    Rom. 5:6-8 towards you.
    The problem is that you are going against Christ and hindering yourself and others.
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