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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    I seldom know if my beseeching is what led them to the light, or whether it was the beseeching of some other member of the body. We only beseech.
    I can get along with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    It is not a matter of doubt. I grew up with the Bible and with faith. I prayed a prayer at a young age. There was then also dispensationalism. I went to Community College after speaking at my High School Graduation about how Jesus is the Source of True Wisdom. I studied Engineering and was the President of Campus Crusade for Christ at my Community College. I obtained an Associate of Science Degree and afterward an Associate of Arts Degree. I studied Philosophy at this time, including Christian Apologetics. But in Acts we read about the philosophers, and those always seeking something new. I know that the Bible says that we need Jesus, not philosophy. I went to Bible School, but not to find Jesus because I already had Jesus. I couldn't be an Engineer because I didn't want to sit behind a desk in a cubicle. Learning about the world just gave me more information about the world. I needed Bible. And where I went people actually wanted to learn the Bible! I have more degrees now, and more schooling. From Computer Engineering and Systems to Computer Science and Systems, my Bachelor of Science Degrees at the University I attended, to more. I graduated from The School of Biblical Evangelism. I took courses with Ravi Zacharias International Ministries. I took free online courses with Dallas Theological Seminary, though I am not a dispensationalist. In all my church activities, leading worship, being a student athlete, I had Jesus the entire time. But as a Jew accepting Jesus' words in Matthew 5:17-20 as for me, I have the Torah and God's Commandments. I have read the Torah from the Bema. I read, study, observe, keep, and teach the Torah. I keep and teach the Commandments as Jesus Christ, Yeshua HaMashiach, Yeshua Messiah, taught we should do to be great in the kingdom of heaven. So, Paul kept the Torah, but without Jesus I might not have ever learned Torah, kept and taught the Torah, God's Commandments, His Law, His Instruction, become a Jew, and recognized God's Commandments for all Israel and all mankind in keeping with the Biblical Revelation found from Matthew to Revelation as well as the TaNaKh, and been able to see the reason for such immorality in the world. A blatant disregard for God and His Word, transgressing God's Commandments, His Law, His Torah. If we are followers of Christ we have to start somewhere. Not in requiring circumcision and following the entire and whole Torah for those who come to God and Christ from among the Gentiles, but in keeping God's Commandments as found in Acts 15. There is much to learn. Once you know something about God's commandments you should not let it go. But we also need to be careful about legalism and driving people to desperation. Still, being of Israel, I shall not and will not forsake and disregard God's Law.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    Saying a prayer won't save you. Nor can the law make men holy. It cannot justify anyone. It cannot give life. It's purpose is to show men their sin and lead them to faith in Christ Jesus.


    If you deny Jesus is God, and insist He is somehow lesser than the Lord God Almighty, all your learning is for naught. It all comes down to WHO you know as LORD AND GOD.

    And you don't know Jesus Christ as you claim. You call Him the Son of God, but you deny He is the LORD GOD. The Lord our God is ONE LORD. That ONE LORD is the ONE SAVIOUR GOD. The WORD was with God and was God in the beginning. That WORD is the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the TRUTH you deny.

    So when you say you have Jesus Christ, you DON'T. You deny your Lord God and Saviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Saying a prayer won't save you. Nor can the law make men holy. It cannot justify anyone. It cannot give life. It's purpose is to show men their sin and lead them to faith in Christ Jesus.


    If you deny Jesus is God, and insist He is somehow lesser than the Lord God Almighty, all your learning is for naught. It all comes down to WHO you know as LORD AND GOD.

    And you don't know Jesus Christ as you claim. You call Him the Son of God, but you deny He is the LORD GOD. The Lord our God is ONE LORD. That ONE LORD is the ONE SAVIOUR GOD. The WORD was with God and was God in the beginning. That WORD is the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the TRUTH you deny.

    So when you say you have Jesus Christ, you DON'T. You deny your Lord God and Saviour.
    Shalom.

    Your words demonstrate that there is something that you do not understand.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    Your words demonstrate that there is something that you do not understand.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    I'm sure there are many things I don't understand, but I do understand your problem. I've seen it since you were posting under Untellectual. Same problem you've always had. You deny Jesus is the ONE GOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    I'm sure there are many things I don't understand, but I do understand your problem. I've seen it since you were posting under Untellectual. Same problem you've always had. You deny Jesus is the ONE GOD.
    Shalom.

    Jesus is the Son of Yahveh, who is by name God.

    Edit- Jesus is the Son of Yahveh, Yahveh being God's name.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Saying a prayer won't save you. Nor can the law make men holy. It cannot justify anyone. It cannot give life. It's purpose is to show men their sin and lead them to faith in Christ Jesus.


    If you deny Jesus is God, and insist He is somehow lesser than the Lord God Almighty, all your learning is for naught. It all comes down to WHO you know as LORD AND GOD.

    And you don't know Jesus Christ as you claim. You call Him the Son of God, but you deny He is the LORD GOD. The Lord our God is ONE LORD. That ONE LORD is the ONE SAVIOUR GOD. The WORD was with God and was God in the beginning. That WORD is the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the TRUTH you deny.

    So when you say you have Jesus Christ, you DON'T. You deny your Lord God and Saviour.
    Lol. I love your capitalization technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    What say you?
    For another good question along that line, Google all the following phrase...

    “GRACE JOURNAL” Is Jesus His Own Father?

    Rom. 5:8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    For another good question along that line, Google all the following phrase...

    “GRACE JOURNAL” Is Jesus His Own Father?
    No thanks. I hear enough about that from God's UNtruth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Lol. I love your capitalization technique.
    It's a requirement when posting to Jacob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    Jesus is the Son of Yahveh, who is by name God.

    Edit- Jesus is the Son of Yahveh, Yahveh being God's name.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    There you go. I rest my case.

    If you can't confess Jesus Christ as your LORD and God, then you are not saved.

    The Lord our God is ONE LORD, and you deny that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    No thanks. I hear enough about that from God's UNtruth.
    No you don't. You obviously did the usual - jumped to your own conclusions before even reading any of it.

    Rom. 5:8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    It's a requirement when posting to Jacob.
    Not sure how to type the sound that came from me when I read this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    There you go. I rest my case.

    If you can't confess Jesus Christ as your LORD and God, then you are not saved.

    The Lord our God is ONE LORD, and you deny that.
    That is nonsense on your part - as many Believers learn that at some later point after they have believed "Christ died for our sins."

    And one aspect of MAD is that Israel had to confess Him as Lord; for that is Who He was but Who they had turned from as.

    In contrast, the Body first confesses Him as Saviour - only then is He able to enable Body members to serve Him as Lord, etc.

    Basic Mid-Acts Dispensational Grace 101 within all Mid-Acts camps.

    You are confused - for you have just now asserted Israel's Lordship salvation.

    Where is that in Romans 3, or in Romans 5, or in 1 Cor. 15., or in Eph. 2?

    Basic Mid-Acts Dispensational Grace 101 within all Mid-Acts camps.

    As well as within many groups outside of Mid-Acts.

    Rom. 5:8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    No you don't. You obviously did the usual - jumped to your own conclusions before even reading any of it.
    Don't tell me what I usually do....you're an idiot.

    I not only see this garbage preached by God's UNtruth,
    but I wouldn't go to a site you suggested if my life depended on it.

    You are not trustworthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Not sure how to type the sound that came from me when I read this.
    You almost always put a smile on my face.

    So refreshing, especially since I know that Mangy Dog Danoh is running off at the mouth. If I was smart, I'd just go to bed and read my new Jack Reacher book, and think about how I'd like to give the Dog a powerful head butt.

    I doubt it would shut him up, though. He probably doesn't type with his big mouth.

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