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    Quote Originally Posted by iouae View Post
    I personally hope they carry on doing so, because the alternative is them stealing, lying, murdering and coveting each others wives and stuff.
    Indeed, your idea may be and has been, an alternative. However that is not the Christian choice:

    Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
    27 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

    Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
    25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it

    John: 12 King James Version (KJV)
    25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.


    Seem that the best thing (the best advise) is to loose one's physical life or be robbed, etc. if necessary, in order to be Christian, in one's current life.

    At least one should not love one's life on earth so as to preserve it at all cost. That is, one should not love one's life on earth to the extent of esteeming, using invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments which killeth spiritual awareness.

    Instead one must love the promise of life in God's kingdom of heaven. And this requires one to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one' own spirit/heart, in harmony with the Spirit of God.

    Christianity does not put any emphasis on the things which the ten commandments seek to preserve.

    A billion strong Catholics and a billions strong traditional Christians cannot 'see' the merits of loosing one's physical life or being robbed, etc.,, in order to be Christian, far less to live in the above manner. Yet they claim to be Christian. This is their great stumbling block.

    Their stumbling block is not that they were not given by God to follow Jesus, i.e. that they do not have the capacity/spiritual actualization to follow Jesus or that they do not follow Jesus. These actions have their natural end, one way or the other;

    John: 6 KJV N.T.
    65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


    Their great stumbling block is their lack of forth-righteousness, integrity, honesty and fairness toward Jesus and authentic Christians.

    The great stumbling block of a billion strong Catholics and a billions strong traditional Christians is that they deny Jesus and His teachings and did not and do not, follow Jesus. However they falsely claim to be Christians, while distorting and undermining Christianity.

    According to Christianity, the purpose of one's current life on earth is not to have a current 70 odd year life, on one's own terms. This 70 odd years is to soweth towards an eternal life in heaven after one dies.

    This requires one to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit/heart in harmony with the Spirit of God.

    One's current 70 odd year life is one time opportunity. This life must be made a sacrifice in which one deprives one self of all things material, physical or carnal that is not a result of following the urging of love within one's own heart/spirit in harmony with the urging of Love that is within the Holy Spirit.

    The Christian approach to the above way of life is to discern and be led by, precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do as discerned within one's own heart/spirit. This is how one becomes an adopted child of God, a Christian and a Saint while one live on earth and then, one goes to spirit heaven in three day after death, to be with Jesus.

    If, on the other hand, one devote one life to preserving one's physical life and protecting one self from being robbed (i.e. by esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments) one is wasting one's life . . . with respect to becoming an eternal heir to God's kingdom of heaven. One will supposedly 'enjoy' one life of 70 odd years on earth, in exchange for an eternity in hell.

    Protecting one's physical life and protecting one self from being materially robbed, etc., is the path of 'the dead'. This is not the path to eternal life and heaven of Christians.

    The above is the literal truth from the Holy KJV N.T.

    A Christian is one who is willing to walk in poverty, if necessary, so as to learn to serve and/or actually serve his own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God.

    A Christian is one who is willing to give-up (devote) his 70 odd year life on earth at this time, to serving his own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God, so as to earn the actualization and right to live in God's kingdom of heaven for all eternity, instead of having to live in hell for eternity:

    Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
    7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
    8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
    9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


    One's current life on earth is just a 70 or so odd years (out of all eternity) that is given for one to learn to and prove that one can qualify for and is fit to live for, an eternity in heaven.

    A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians abandon this opportunity, so that they can have a well regulated physical life for their current 70 odd years on earth. That is, they delight in and esteem the seemingly certainty of the ten commandments which killeth spiritual awareness instead of a life that is anchored on the probabilistic laws of spirit and Spirit.

    By doing the above a billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians throw away their opportunity for an eternal life in heaven. They give up their opportunity for eternity in heaven in exchange for 70 odd years of their own perception of a good life on earth, in their current life.

    This is a very sad and unfortunate exchange.

    Because of the above, a billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians do not make it to heaven. They are not chosen for heaven. They make it to an eternity in that other place:

    Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
    14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

    Daniel: 12 King James Version (KJV)
    4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


    The above mentioned 'life' and confirm that 'few' finding the path that leadeth to 'life'. The above also say that ten commandments is the ministration of death and is 'him who has the power of death, that is the devil.. 'Life' and 'death' are opposite to each other.

    A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians are totally deceived about the ten commandments. They are esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments which is 'him who has the power of death, that is the devil'. However they foolishly believe that they are worshiping God and are Christians.

    Fact is, the ten commandments were the laws of the land (and a judicial system) for a people without any land and without any formal institutions. These people were the Jews of the time when the ten commandments were given by Moses. This was much more prior to 2000 odd years ago.

    These laws were given simply for managing the physical behavior of the Jews of that time.

    According to the Holy KJV N.T. when Moses gave the ten commandments he simply fool-up the Jews into believing that these laws were from God and he did not tell them that these laws must eventually be done-away-with:

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
    13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

    John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
    17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

    Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
    24 Wherefore the law (i.e. the ten commandments) was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
    25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
    26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.


    However the above action by Moses, was not blind deceit. It was divinely inspired. Although the ten commandments were not God's eternal or other laws, they had a divine purpose.

    Moses fooled-up the Jews, under advisement. The Jews were fooled into believing that the ten commandments were God's law so as to add power of compliance (and enforce-ability) to the them.

    Simply put by fooling the Jews into believing that the ten commandments were God's laws, the Jews were much more inclined to obey these laws so as to physically behave in a civil manner, under the fear of punishment from God (if they transgress these laws). These laws were simply for management of their physical behavior. Especially because modern policemen or schoolmasters and a formal judiciary were not developed at that time, among those Jews:

    Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
    24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.


    When Jesus came he confirmed the above about the ten commandments. Jesus confirmed that Moses simply gave the ten commandment (for a limited and temporal purpose), however truth and grace came with Him. Unlike Moses, Jesus brought truth and grace.

    Jesus also found that the ten commandments were making and keeping people, 'the dead' and He did-away-with the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit.

    Thereafter the laws which everyone was obliged to uphold and to be protected by, were to be the laws of their lands.

    Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
    21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's


    By separating the laws of the land (i.e. policemen, schoolmasters and law and order) from things of God, the ten commandments, which killeth, were totally removed from the precincts of God. Being used only as related to the laws of one's land, the ten commandments would stop being the ministration of death.

    Since then, everyone is obliged to uphold and every one is entitled to be protected by, the laws of their land which are generally conformed to the ideas of the ten commandments. The place for ten commandments are the laws of the land and not at all, within Christianity. The place for the ten commandments is totally not related to anything to do with God.

    Fact is, the ten commandments were never any fixed and eternal laws of God. They were always only a tool for managing human physical behavior. They were like the laws of one land and judicial system. If the ten commandments are use in any thing related to religion, spirituality and God, the ten commandments is 'him who has the power of death, that is the devil'.

    Upholding the ten commandments with respect to Christianity was totally done-away-with (was banned), by Jesus.

    With respect to coveting the spouse of another person (be it man or woman), the Christian position is as follows: One has total God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to covert the spouse of another person, if it is necessary to do so, in order to serve love's urging within one's own spirit/heart in harmony with Love's urging within the Spirit of God. When one covet for this reason such couples bring forth only fruits onto God/children of God. They are glorified by God for this action.

    One is glorified by God when one covet (the spouse of another person, be it man or woman) so as to serve love's urging within one's own spirit/heart in harmony with Love's urging within the Spirit of God. In these acts one brings forth no fruits onto death (who are children of the flesh). Such couples bring forth only fruits onto God who are children of God.

    God does not glorify those who bring forth fruit onto death, who are children of the flesh. Every one who in the least way esteem, use, invokes and/or promote the ten commandments bring forth only fruits onto death who include only children of the flesh. Such people cannot and do not, enter God's kingdom of heaven.


    Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
    5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.


    The above is the authentic Christian position as confirmed by clear and literal revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.

    You need to go back and read my other posts in which I have already covered this subject comprehensively, according to literal and clear revelations in the Holy KJV N.T..
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    Dear iouae, the following are Christian tenants. Do you uphold them?

    Dear iouae

    Matthew: 5 KJV N.T.
    40 If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.

    Luke: 6 KJV N.T.
    30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.


    The above are Christian tenants. Can you uphold the above tenants, so as to be a Christian?

    Or do you ignore the above and claim to be Christian?

    Matthew: 10 KJV N.T.
    8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
    9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,


    At least give far more on earth than you received on earth.

    Bank your treasures/earnings in heaven. Or at least earn some heavenly treasures. Let not all your treasures/earnings be earthly and material:

    Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
    19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
    20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
    21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.


    The question is how does one lay treasures/earnings for oneself in heaven?

    The answer is simple:

    One transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God. This is how one banks treasures in heaven. Then one cashes-in these treasures at judgment, after physical death, to gain entry to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm.

    To esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments is to be committed to protecting only one's earthly treasures. And to earn no treasures in heaven:

    Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
    7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
    8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
    9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


    To esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments is to soweth to flesh:

    Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
    5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
    6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
    7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


    The consequences of esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments which is 'him who has the power of death, the devil', are very very serious. The ten commandments are the ministration of death. They are guaranteed to make and keep one, the dead and deliver one inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter:

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurucam View Post
    [COLOR="#0000FF"]Dear iouae

    Matthew: 5 KJV N.T.
    40 If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.

    Luke: 6 KJV N.T.
    30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.


    The above are Christian tenants. Can you uphold the above tenants, so as to be a Christian?

    Or do you ignore the above and claim to be Christian?
    Nothing in the 10C stops one doing so.



    The question is how does one lay treasures/earnings for oneself in heaven?

    The answer is simple:

    One transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God. This is how one banks treasures in heaven. Then one cashes-in these treasures at judgment, after physical death, to gain entry to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm.
    One breaks the 10C to be in harmony with God?????????

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    In Christianity, no one is forced to stay in a spiritless/loveless marriage:

    In Christianity, no one is forced to stay in a spiritless/loveless marriage:

    1 Corinthians: 7 KJV N.T.
    13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
    14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
    15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
    16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iouae View Post
    Nothing in the 10C stops one doing so.

    One breaks the 10C to be in harmony with God?????????
    Yes, totally correct.

    The ten commandments is a curse. The ten commandments is the devil. If you want to follow God you have to transgress the ten commandments.

    The ten commandments is the ministration of death. The ten commandments killeth only the Spirit giveth life. The ten commandments is 'him who has the power of death, that is the devil'.

    And Jesus did away with the ten commandments (which killeth) and replaced it with His Spirit (Who giveth life).

    The above is the literal truth in the Holy KJV N.T.

    However you are free to ignore the above and do your own thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurucam View Post
    Yes, totally correct.

    The ten commandments is a curse. The ten commandments is the devil. If you want to follow God you have to transgress the ten commandments.

    The ten commandments is the ministration of death. The ten commandments killeth only the Spirit giveth life. The ten commandments is 'him who has the power of death, that is the devil'.

    And Jesus did away with the ten commandments (which killeth) and replaced it with His Spirit (Who giveth life).

    The above is the literal truth in the Holy KJV N.T.

    However you are free to ignore the above and do your own thing.
    I want to know which of the 10C you broke today. Did you have another God before God, or take His name in vain, or kill or covet? Are you lying now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iouae View Post
    I want to know which of the 10C you broke today. Did you have another God before God, or take His name in vain, or kill or covet? Are you lying now?
    I post only the literal revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.

    I am not seeking to be an example in my own rights. I admit that I have infirmities and I do not post my personal ideas and opinions.

    I do get information and guidance from the Spirit of Jesus, through my own heart/spirit. However from these, I post only those information and guidance which are totally, clearly and literally supported by revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.

    Therefore I simply post authentic, literal and clear revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.

    These are not my words. These are Jesus' words.

    Therefore my life style, is of no consequence or importance to you, your salvation and your deliverance.

    I do not wish to or dare to, advise you with regards to your salvation and deliverance etc. because if I misguide you in the least manner I will have to share your possible punishment.

    The Lord Jesus has taken that responsibility to inform and guide those who follow Him, with respect to their salvation and deliverance etc. This is a very big responsibility that requires one like Jesus to undertake. The priest who takes it upon himself to interpret and/or explain the revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. is more than likely accruing exponential/compounded sin.

    To protect myself from not attempting to guide and inform any one with respect to their salvation, deliverance etc.. I post only the clear and literal revelations from the Holy KJV N.T., I add nothing, take away nothing and interpret nothing with respect to the revelations from the Holy KJV N.T., which I post.

    Jesus had two agendas and left two choices, one for each agenda:

    Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
    22 But Jesus said unto him, 1. Follow me; and 2. let the dead bury their dead.


    Then Jesus confirmed that the ten commandments are the ministration of death. Also Jesus confirmed that only people in the flesh (i.e. the dead/children of the flesh) are required to recognize, esteem, use, invoke and/or use the ten commandments. Jesus confirmed that people who are spiritually aware (no longer only in the flesh) have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their spirit/heart in harmony with the Spirit of God.

    The Spirit of Jesus is provided to enable one to do the above.

    Jesus confirm that the ten commandments killeth (makes one 'the dead'), only his Spirit giveth life. Jesus found that the ten commandments which were supposed to be onto life was found to be onto death. And He did away with the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit.

    Everyone is given the free will to choose between either 'following Jesus' or being among 'the dead who bury their dead'.

    Clearly if one wants to be 'the dead who bury their dead', one will esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. Because the ten commandments killeth. The ten commandments makes one and keeps one, 'the dead'.

    Jesus's system (i.e. Christianity) is based on direct and individual communion of Jesus as the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. This unified Spirit must be discerned within one's own heart/spirit, silently, privately and individually, on one own. And one must be led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do (as discerned within one's own heart/spirit), even if one has to transgress the ten commandments.

    The above is about being silently, privately, directly and individually informed and guided by the Spirit of Jesus as discerned within one's own heart/spirit. And transgressing the ten commandments so as to be be led by this information and guidance. This does not have any things to do the behavior of others. This has nothing to do with one person examining and/or assessing, the behavior of another person.

    Under the Christians system, one does not have to gauge one's life by the life style of other persons. Nor does one have to seek out and use, an external/physical pope or priest. It is the same with judgment. Judgement is an absolutely personal and individual matter. One stands alone before the Spirit of Jesus, on one's judgment day. Then one is dispatches to either heaven or hell.

    Judgement is based on how and to what one soweth to, in one current life time.

    With respect to your inquiry into my my life: The ten commandments were never in my awareness as a concept of right and wrong with respect to God. The ten commandments entered my awareness only as some kind of anchor for the laws of my and other lands.

    I am not even aware if or when I transgress the ten commandments. Whether or not I transgress the ten commandments is never in my awareness. However I am always aware of and always seek to uphold, the laws of my land and international laws etc.

    I always sought to soweth, only, to spirit and Spirit, with absolutely no regard for the ten commandments, while not going against the laws of my land.

    Today the laws of our lands are far more thoughtful, detailed and compassionate when compared with the raw ten commandments (and stoning to death etc.).

    Numbers: 15 KJV
    35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
    36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.


    The ten commandments came with instruction for humans to judge each other and stone transgressors. The ten commandments cannot be separated from the idea of humans judging each other and stoning transgressors to death by their fellow man.

    The ten commandments were the laws of the land for an essentially primitive set of people who were landless.

    Things are far better now. Jesus did away with the ten commandments and we now have the laws of our land and a much better judicial system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurucam View Post
    I post only the literal revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.

    I am not seeking to be an example in my own rights. I admit that I have infirmities and I do not post my personal ideas and opinions.

    I do get information and guidance from the Spirit of Jesus, through my own heart/spirit. However from these, I post only those information and guidance which are totally, clearly and literally supported by revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.

    Therefore I simply post authentic, literal and clear revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.

    These are not my words. These are Jesus' words.

    Therefore my life style, is of no consequence or importance to you, your salvation and your deliverance.

    I do not wish to or dare to, advise you with regards to your salvation and deliverance etc. because if I misguide you in the least manner I will have to share your possible punishment.

    The Lord Jesus has taken that responsibility to inform and guide those who follow Him, with respect to their salvation and deliverance etc. This is a very big responsibility that requires one like Jesus to undertake. The priest who takes it upon himself to interpret and/or explain the revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. is more than likely accruing exponential/compounded sin.

    To protect myself from not attempting to guide and inform any one with respect to their salvation, deliverance etc.. I post only the clear and literal revelations from the Holy KJV N.T., I add nothing, take away nothing and interpret nothing with respect to the revelations from the Holy KJV N.T., which I post.

    Jesus had two agendas and left two choices, one for each agenda:

    Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
    22 But Jesus said unto him, 1. Follow me; and 2. let the dead bury their dead.


    Then Jesus confirmed that the ten commandments are the ministration of death. Also Jesus confirmed that only people in the flesh (i.e. the dead/children of the flesh) are required to recognize, esteem, use, invoke and/or use the ten commandments. Jesus confirmed that people who are spiritually aware (no longer only in the flesh) have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their spirit/heart in harmony with the Spirit of God.

    The Spirit of Jesus is provided to enable one to do the above.

    Jesus confirm that the ten commandments killeth (makes one 'the dead'), only his Spirit giveth life. Jesus found that the ten commandments which were supposed to be onto life was found to be onto death. And He did away with the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit.

    Everyone is given the free will to choose between either 'following Jesus' or being among 'the dead who bury their dead'.

    Clearly if one wants to be 'the dead who bury their dead', one will esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. Because the ten commandments killeth. The ten commandments makes one and keeps one, 'the dead'.

    Jesus's system (i.e. Christianity) is based on direct and individual communion of Jesus as the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. This unified Spirit must be discerned within one's own heart/spirit, silently, privately and individually, on one own. And one must be led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do (as discerned within one's own heart/spirit), even if one has to transgress the ten commandments.

    The above is about being silently, privately, directly and individually informed and guided by the Spirit of Jesus as discerned within one's own heart/spirit. And transgressing the ten commandments so as to be be led by this information and guidance. This does not have any things to do the behavior of others. This has nothing to do with one person examining and/or assessing, the behavior of another person.

    Under the Christians system, one does not have to gauge one's life by the life style of other persons. Nor does one have to seek out and use, an external/physical pope or priest. It is the same with judgment. Judgement is an absolutely personal and individual matter. One stands alone before the Spirit of Jesus, on one's judgment day. Then one is dispatches to either heaven or hell.

    Judgement is based on how and to what one soweth to, in one current life time.

    With respect to your inquiry into my my life: The ten commandments were never in my awareness as a concept of right and wrong with respect to God. The ten commandments entered my awareness only as some kind of anchor for the laws of my and other lands.

    I am not even aware if or when I transgress the ten commandments. Whether or not I transgress the ten commandments is never in my awareness. However I am always aware of and always seek to uphold, the laws of my land and international laws etc.

    I always sought to soweth, only, to spirit and Spirit, with absolutely no regard for the ten commandments, while not going against the laws of my land.

    Today the laws of our lands are far more thoughtful, detailed and compassionate when compared with the raw ten commandments (and stoning to death etc.).
    It sounds to me that you do not practice what you preach which is breaking the 10C.

    I mean, if I were you and so dead set against the 10C, I would remember if I committed adultery today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iouae View Post
    It sounds to me that you do not practice what you preach which is breaking the 10C.

    I mean, if I were you and so dead set against the 10C, I would remember if I committed adultery today.
    Seem that you cannot conclude things correctly. This is the typical circumstance with a billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians. They are not the few who found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to eternal life and heaven. They are the billions who hold totally wrong conclusion about the revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.:

    Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
    24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?


    People err and are not chosen when they do not know scriptures, accurately.

    A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians do not know scriptures. They are the deceived many (i.e. billions). They are totally misled (deceived) about scriptures. They and their teachers, popes, priests, etc. come to very wrong (and deceiving) ideas when they hear or read the scriptures.

    For example: The Holy KJV N.T. confirm literally, in total clarity that one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten ten commandments, so as to, unconditionally serve one's one spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God.

    A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians totally deny and trample on the above Christian instruction which is a clear and literal revelation in the Holy KJV N.T..

    I do not do the above.

    Fact is, I covet, so as to serve love's urging within my own spirit in harmony with Love' urging within the Holy Spirit. I find this to be extremely blissful, regenerating and healing. And I am glorified by God.

    Only the presence of passionate love, as a motivator, makes a union Godly and blissful:

    1 John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
    8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


    The 'thou shall not covet' commandments relegates spirit/love/God from unions.

    Are you stuck (and having carnal sex), in a spiritless/loveless marriage/union because you esteem use, invoke and promote the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment?

    People tend to invoke the 'thou shall not covet commandment' so as to trap their their spouses in a carnal, loveless and spiritless union with them. Then they only have carnal loveless, spiritless sex in those union.

    Nothing good come from such a union, only fruit onto death (which includes children of flesh) are brought forth in such unions.

    People seem to have their first child (a child of God) out of an expression of new and passionate urging of love. This is a child of God. Because God Who is Love rules and dominate in those unions. The 'thou shall not covet' commandment is not even in their consciousness.

    People who are passionately in love have no time for recognizing or using the 'thou shall not covet' commandment. By naturally and spontaneously forgetting the ten commandments and freely serve the love in their spirit in harmony with the Love in the Spirit of God, they spontaneously slip into a Christian mode. And then they bring forth only fruits onto God who are only children of God. And no fruits onto death who are children of the flesh.

    However their passionate love eventually fades.

    Love's urging wains. However they continue to stay together (because one of the party (or both) esteems, and invokes the 'thou shall not covet' commandment) and they have carnal, loveless and spiritless sex (for their other children) and they bring forth other children who are only children of the flesh.
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